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Strategic cruisers, Strategic frigates and battleships !

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TheTennant
Third Attention
#1 - 2016-06-29 13:35:51 UTC
Please can you introduce frigates and battleships with custom sub systems. This is a sandbox after all.
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2016-06-29 13:50:48 UTC
Just because something is a sandbox doesn't mean every idea of dubious quality should be added.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#3 - 2016-06-29 13:53:23 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Just because something is a sandbox doesn't mean every idea of dubious quality should be added.

Besides the logical next step is the modular super-capital that can be refit as either a t3 titan or a t3 supercarrier or a hybrid of the two...

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#4 - 2016-06-29 13:57:51 UTC
Then...get rid of all the T1s and T2s. A couple of years down the road, someone starts clamoring for highly specialized T3s. The T3 becomes the T1. I tell yah, it's madness! MADNESS!!! *takes a pill*

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#5 - 2016-06-29 14:02:52 UTC
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
Then...get rid of all the T1s and T2s. A couple of years down the road, someone starts clamoring for highly specialized T3s. The T3 becomes the T1. I tell yah, it's madness! MADNESS!!! *takes a pill*

You know what, lets just take the "rebalancing" and "simplifying" trend to its ultimate logical conclusion here:

Only 1 ship in all of EVE.

We will name it "The Ship"

100% modular.

Can fulfill any role of any current ship - depending on a list of like 10 required and 50 optional subsystem upgrades - some will be more rare than others, and many will not be useable together.

It will fit "The Gun" or "The Gun II"

For drones it can use "The Drone"


Yay simplicity!!!

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
#6 - 2016-06-29 14:05:22 UTC
TheTennant wrote:
Please can you introduce frigates and battleships with custom sub systems. This is a sandbox after all.


How about no?

First off, Ideas and Suggestions forum is -----> that way.

Secondly, "This is a sandbox after all" is not proper justification for a new feature. At least try to put some thought into it.

Thirdly, this has been suggested before.

Fourth(ly?), where would these ships fit? T3Ds have pretty much taken over for Assault Frigates, so a T3 frig would need to be more powerful than frigs but less powerful than T3Ds. This kind of ship should be the Assault Frigate class anyways. T3 battleships would have to fit somewhere between a maurader and a dread, but what the heck would that even look like? Battleship dps, battlecruiser speed, Dread tank?

Overall, how about we wait for T3C/Ds to be balanced before we even consider asking for more.
Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
#7 - 2016-06-29 14:06:43 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
Then...get rid of all the T1s and T2s. A couple of years down the road, someone starts clamoring for highly specialized T3s. The T3 becomes the T1. I tell yah, it's madness! MADNESS!!! *takes a pill*

You know what, lets just take the "rebalancing" and "simplifying" trend to its ultimate logical conclusion here:

Only 1 ship in all of EVE.

We will name it "The Ship"

100% modular.

Can fulfill any role of any current ship - depending on a list of like 10 required and 50 optional subsystem upgrades - some will be more rare than others, and many will not be useable together.

It will fit "The Gun" or "The Gun II"

For drones it can use "The Drone"


Yay simplicity!!!


We are fairly close to that now. We have two at least (Svipul and Tengu). lol
TheTennant
Third Attention
#8 - 2016-06-29 14:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: TheTennant
"Overall, how about we wait for T3C/Ds to be balanced before we even consider asking for more."






I think the whole idea of BALANCE is antithetical to a real world. We should be able to have over powered ships. I understand that it would create a "one ship game" but perhaps they could make it very hard to get, like very long training times or something or make it illegal to have more than a certain amount in a fleet. It would make for some very interesting solo fights in the game.

I feel ccp should do more for the solo player in eve.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-06-29 15:29:28 UTC
Because T3 cruisers and T3 destroyers added so much balance to the game, right?

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#10 - 2016-06-29 15:35:57 UTC
TheTennant wrote:
I think the whole idea of BALANCE is antithetical to a real world. We should be able to have over powered ships. I understand that it would create a "one ship game" but perhaps they could make it very hard to get, like very long training times or something or make it illegal to have more than a certain amount in a fleet. It would make for some very interesting solo fights in the game.


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Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-06-29 16:00:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Lord Trump
TheTennant wrote:
I think the whole idea of BALANCE is antithetical to a real world. We should be able to have over powered ships.

Except this is a game, and fun>realism. Having an intentionally overpowered ship is not fun.

TheTennant wrote:
I understand that it would create a "one ship game" but perhaps they could make it very hard to get, like very long training times or something or make it illegal to have more than a certain amount in a fleet.

Very long training times will just make the game worse for new players as they'll have to wait longer to get into anything resembling solo PvP as everyone will fly the OP ship and the poor newbean will get slaughtered. Also, you appeal to realism and then suggest some artificial limit? In the real world, there's no reason for me to bring anything that's not the OP ship.


TheTennant wrote:
It would make for some very interesting solo fights in the game.

I feel ccp should do more for the solo player in eve.

If by "more interesting" you mean "defined entirely by which parties are flying the OP ship" then yes, it will be more interesting.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2016-06-29 19:37:31 UTC
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