Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Suggestion simple

Step one: Remove attributes numbers.

Step two: give all actions an attribute modifier

Step three: performing an action will now now apply an attribute modifier, so lets say you are mining, and mining action attribute could be memory (x3) so memory attribute based skills will now be 10 percent sp bonus while you are actively mining.

Why did I add a multiplier? Well simple really, passive actions would have a smaller Attribute bonus because you can fire and forget them. Things like PI, or station/Corp operations, markets, ectra ectra.

Reason: It would encourage actively engaging in things to get a bonus to SP gain


PS: I'm not really going to bust my ass off defending this idea, It was an idea I created in my head at work and decided to just throw it out there to see what other people thought. So if you like it, you like it, if you hate it, well.... You hate it. :'(

Wow, why thank you for the post, may I ask why? Or has our great holy lord of Jeeb been invoked for explanation? :)

Step one of removing attributes is good..
Step two of adding them back in using a more complex system however is terrible and goes directly against Eves passive skill system.
Just remove them and flat rate train.

You're most welcome!

The reason is, EVE is not a level up game and you want to create an EVE-Diablo.

And suddenly EvE is Black Desert in Space.

--Gadget

Second post for the responses to the smaller replies.



The training is still passive, however adding in a system (After the current attribute system is cut) that rewords players for activity is a good thing as well. It helps remove the current "Must research everything about attribute points" To figure out what best attributes you must train for the next... What is it six months now? Or is the remaps still yearly? Regardless, the fact that you are stuck in your training plan for X amounts of months when a lot of things can happen in a month is....bad

Instead A simple system that rewards players for ingame activity. Something that any mmo needs to help entertain the players, is other players going out there doing something else besides logging in for 5 minutes and setting skills.



I mean, sure, not like I can't set up a second account purely for creating skill injectors for my primary account at all. :) but hey if I posted every way that something could be abused every suggestion thread would be a mile long (And sometimes are)




I honestly don't understand this. First of all- We already have levels, they are called skill levels, Second of all - I- in no way suggested the removal of passive skillpoint gain. I don't understand where you, or anyone else is getting that idea, but that is not my suggestion. Maybe I should edit my op and expand on the explanation as some people don't.... How should I put this diplomatically, understand it.

But I will expand upon it in here

First of all with the removal of attribute point system means if someone logs in for 5 minutes and sets skills will gain no passive bonuses their SP gain from attributes as everyone will have the same attributes. However when you perform an action be it a passive action like PI or a active action like shooting someone's face off, you will gain an attribute modifier so like memory(x1) or memory (x3) ectra.

On the flip side, the game will only pick the attributes with the highest modifier, so lets say you have a passive action going on that is giving you a willpower(x1) and then perform an action that suddenly gives you a willpower(x4) well the game will use the Willpower(x4) till the action ends, and then fall back to willpower(x1)




I honestly don't think it that much more complex then it is now: However if you want the system to be easy to learn, give little attribute bubbles at the top of the screen that will show what action is giving you what modifier for that bubble (give a bubble for each attribute.) :)

I would like to point out one flaw with this problem. A simple flaw, but a flaw none the less. Most skill attributes have a habit of overlapping, even attributes to things that people might not have any interest in ever doing. The idea is that you will gain a skill bonus for performing an action towards skills that you have in training that relate to those attributes. If you are a combat pilot you will be mainly getting attributes towards Perception and Willpower, and turn most pilots would most likely be training more combat related things, so by them flying the character how they want to fly it naturally provides bonuses to their presumed skill line, but by simply flying ships you get an attribute bonus you get a natural bonus to training other spaceships.






I honestly wouldn't think these sort of posts are valid points to abuse. One person pointed to abuse in this thread. A single person out of this entire thread pointed out the possibility of abuse. And my response was that many things already in even specially newly added things seem to be easily abused, however I feel that the problem will be a very small problem. For example the alt and repping.

Sure they can safe up, and rep all day, but they will only get an attribute bonus to the action related to repping plus what ever passive things they have going on in the background.

...And if one person pointed out that this idea is abusable, what makes you think that thousands will not abuse it?