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Gila still viable for c3 WHs
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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#21 - 2016-06-28 23:54:41 UTC
Pax Deltari wrote:
...Nope sorry man you are still an idiot.
In case you missed it.
"(Would recommend C2's not C3's in it.)"
"You can tank any C2 Anomaly and most C3 but the C3's take so long to do I don't think it's worth it in a Gila."

Insulting you AND THEN posting a fit and explaining it will help him though. Also with a passive shield tank you never go back. You just wait for a little bit. But shows how much you know :)...


...shows how old you are. I know a lot more than you do, kid.

I will not ever post any fits, since you are supposed to learn that on your own. Why do you think, I wrote a guide that was meant to be a vague as possible?

Your insults do not make you "clever" they are a strong sign of insecurity and fear, or yet another middle school day for you.


So far I managed to solo c3 sites in an Orthrus a Phantasm and a Gila, just as proof of concept. I have observed sleeper behavior patterns for long enough that I can tell you blindfolded what they will be doing next.

Cade was asking for a fit and when you need to ask for a fit for whatever reason, you should not fly that ship.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Cade Windstalker
#22 - 2016-06-29 01:53:41 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Cade was asking for a fit and when you need to ask for a fit for whatever reason, you should not fly that ship.


Don't enforce your own rules and ways of playing the game on others. Please and thank you. If you don't want to provide a fit then don't, no need to get pissy because someone else decided to be more helpful than you. Big smile
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2016-06-29 22:49:04 UTC
Pax Deltari wrote:
You ran C4 sites in a Gila?



I wasn't always alone.

The home system being a Pulsar helped a lot, like really a lot.
safetypin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-06-30 12:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: safetypin
Lots of great replies folks. I'm eventually going to use a Rattle but for now I'm using the gila with good success, as far as all c2 anoms/sigs go I don't use a depot for refitting and am all good. Not tried c3 yet though.

I'm at work so can't remember by exact fit but it's something like
Lows: 2 x DDA II, 1 x shield power relay
Mids: 3 x rf shield extender, passive therm/em amp, target painter
Highs: rapid lights and drone link II
Rigs: 3x purger II

I put on the target painter to help with drone aggro and it seems to work well when leaving it on the 'trigger' sleeper, though tbh since my light missiles make short work of frigs, and the cruiser/bs sleepers don't seem interested in my drones, perhaps I'll remove the painter for another LSE or such and just kill all frigs before releasing drones. Also the gila drone hitpoint bonus helps a lot.

What drones do you guys use? Am using hammerheads but was think infiltrators may increase overall dps due to speed, as well as being able to make it back to my bay if under fire.
safetypin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-06-30 12:36:45 UTC  |  Edited by: safetypin
Actually I'm also considering the scorp navy over the rattle as well. Incredible damage, great tank and none of that drone worry or depot refitting danger. I know a lot of people would disagree, just wondering the reasons for this? Is the real damage application far lower than the potential dps or what? Was thinking - cruise or rapid heavies, stay aligned to pos and MJD should keep me quite safe?

Not saying I'm not looking forward to getting into the pvp side of WHs, but going to focus on stabilising my wallet/income first.

Thanks again :)

Edit: Also as far as pvp goes, it seems like throwing some torps on my navy scorp would be a lovely ganker for when my cov ops stealth bomber is sitting 10k off a tengu or such next door.
Pax Deltari
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-06-30 14:29:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Pax Deltari
Kitty Bear wrote:
Pax Deltari wrote:
You ran C4 sites in a Gila?

I wasn't always alone.
The home system being a Pulsar helped a lot, like really a lot.


Makes sense. Yeah Pulsar's are dope.

safetypin wrote:

What drones do you guys use? Am using hammerheads but was think infiltrators may increase overall dps due to speed, as well as being able to make it back to my bay if under fire.


I use hammerheads on a Gila. Not really sure on the exact numbers DPS wise but Drone Flight time never seemed like a big deal to me but I may be missing out. You should report back after trying it out. Also the target painter is a bad choice imo. The sleepers don't really care for your drones and the frigates that DO aggro can be melted immediatly. Your rapid lights don't have trouble hitting sleeper frigates/cruisers so I don't think you're getting as much value out of it as you would additional tank, since that would allow you to keep your Drone Damage Amplifiers on longer.

safetypin wrote:
Actually I'm also considering the scorp navy over the rattle as well. Incredible damage, great tank and none of that drone worry or depot refitting danger. I know a lot of people would disagree, just wondering the reasons for this? .


The damage application of cruise missiles on the scorp is much lower then the rattlesnake with drones mainly. Rattlesnake is way better for PvE against sleepers.


safetypin wrote:

Edit: Also as far as pvp goes, it seems like throwing some torps on my navy scorp would be a lovely ganker for when my cov ops stealth bomber is sitting 10k off a tengu or such next door.


You're probably going to have some bad times if you try to PvP with torpedos. Their damage application is really bad. (Does have a good tank though. On a side note the Rattlesnake is pretty amazing for PvP. Some videos below from Mr Hyde.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wkon2cNB58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLv3LD3EdnY
safetypin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-06-30 15:07:23 UTC
Great reply, thanks mate. I'll stick with hammers and lose the painter - as you say I've never had anything but frigs aggro my drones, and more tank is always nice :) I'll post after I get a chance to try it out.

Very good points about the scorp/rattle...as for killing frigs in a rattle, sentries at range?

Had worried about the damage app with torps but thought it might not go too bad if I had a painter or two and a heavy tackle alt...anyway that's a while down the line!
Pax Deltari
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-06-30 16:41:03 UTC
Yeah, it gets fuzzy with alts. I have a gecko in my rattlesnake which I use to snipe frigs. Rapid heavies also do enough damage to take them out... eventually.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#29 - 2016-07-03 14:38:38 UTC
safetypin wrote:
Great reply, thanks mate. I'll stick with hammers and lose the painter - as you say I've never had anything but frigs aggro my drones, and more tank is always nice :) I'll post after I get a chance to try it out.

Very good points about the scorp/rattle...as for killing frigs in a rattle, sentries at range?

Had worried about the damage app with torps but thought it might not go too bad if I had a painter or two and a heavy tackle alt...anyway that's a while down the line!


The frigates in a class 3 wormhole are a little different than the ones in a class 1 and 2. The bigger payout for the anomalies has a reason.
Last time I went into those I didn't have to move and let my Gila just sit there at zero. Don't ever do that in a class 3 and up.

And what Pax said.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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