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Who is the Best high sec merc group to have ever existed!
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Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#141 - 2016-06-26 12:09:19 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Xolve you can pick a high sec merc group any time now


Project Nemesis.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#142 - 2016-06-26 12:15:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
Luukje wrote:
So to sum things up; Mr. Xolve, I don't think it's possible for you to be any more wrong. But please do try.


SoShockedManyShockedBattleships.
Luukje
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#143 - 2016-06-26 12:46:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Luukje
Xolve wrote:
Luukje wrote:
So to sum things up; Mr. Xolve, I don't think it's possible for you to be any more wrong. But please do try.


SoShockedManyShockedBattleships.


nice, ur screenshotting bits where i farm bads, just like you do, in null sec.
Good how you totally avoid the actual life-time stats, which would show what i said before. lol.
You're just making yourself look stupid now Xolve.

Edit: Look at Xolve guys!!!11!!1!!! he only kills frigates when hes without a big group! he's a scared pussycat!
http://imgur.com/k3rT6Eq

>.> see, pointless to screenshot little bits of zkill. it's the total lifetime/pattern that matters.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#144 - 2016-06-26 15:21:03 UTC
Luukje wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Luukje wrote:
So to sum things up; Mr. Xolve, I don't think it's possible for you to be any more wrong. But please do try.


SoShockedManyShockedBattleships.


nice, ur screenshotting bits where i farm bads, just like you do, in null sec.
Good how you totally avoid the actual life-time stats, which would show what i said before. lol.
You're just making yourself look stupid now Xolve.

Edit: Look at Xolve guys!!!11!!1!!! he only kills frigates when hes without a big group! he's a scared pussycat!
http://imgur.com/k3rT6Eq

>.> see, pointless to screenshot little bits of zkill. it's the total lifetime/pattern that matters.


You've killed 4 battleships in the month of June. 5 in the month of May.

"little bits of zkill" was from the past 3-4 days.
jack1974
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2016-06-26 15:25:32 UTC
Luukje wrote:

Matter of opinion. Make a thread to include the other regions of new eden if you're so butthurt nobody is licking ur ego.


It's called the food chain.

NULL > Lowsec > High-sec

When a major alliance in Eve moves somewhere it creates a deadzone around their staging system. This usually turns into a region or two. Local entities either go inactive or they move away because they can't compete. The same effect happens when a major entity moves into a lowsec region. Even the larger groups like Snuff or Shadow Cartel will shut down super operations or move away so they can continue enjoy their version of dominance again.

Lets say an entity like Shadow Cartel, a large low-sec alliance, moved to Jita. On your best day you can form 20 vindicators, your purple macherial, and 10 nestors? Yes the fleet would be sufficient for high-sec but Shadow Cartel could bring the same fleet on their worst days for each timezone. Not only would their fleets boast superior numbers, each ship would be piloted by 1 person. As you all would be switching back and forth between your dps and your nestors alts SC would quickly be switching targets to confuse you while their logi pilots are solely focusing on their broadcast window. Furthermore whle your nestors are approaching your dps anchor SC's logi would be orbiting their DPS at 40-50km away from your guns.

In conclusion I do agree the tactics of high-sec mercs and low/null groups are different. While the low/null groups are seasoned in fleet engagements and positioning a high-sec group is conditioned to all be in docking/jump range.

By the way, have any of your pilots been on a winning alliance tournament team?
Luukje
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#146 - 2016-06-26 15:35:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Luukje
jack1974 wrote:
Luukje wrote:

Matter of opinion. Make a thread to include the other regions of new eden if you're so butthurt nobody is licking ur ego.


It's called the food chain.

NULL > Lowsec > High-sec

When a major alliance in Eve moves somewhere it creates a deadzone around their staging system. This usually turns into a region or two. Local entities either go inactive or they move away because they can't compete. The same effect happens when a major entity moves into a lowsec region. Even the larger groups like Snuff or Shadow Cartel will shut down super operations or move away so they can continue enjoy their version of dominance again.

Lets say an entity like Shadow Cartel, a large low-sec alliance, moved to Jita. On your best day you can form 20 vindicators, your purple macherial, and 10 nestors? Yes the fleet would be sufficient for high-sec but Shadow Cartel could bring the same fleet on their worst days for each timezone. Not only would their fleets boast superior numbers, each ship would be piloted by 1 person. As you all would be switching back and forth between your dps and your nestors alts SC would quickly be switching targets to confuse you while their logi pilots are solely focusing on their broadcast window. Furthermore whle your nestors are approaching your dps anchor SC's logi would be orbiting their DPS at 40-50km away from your guns.

In conclusion I do agree the tactics of high-sec mercs and low/null groups are different. While the low/null groups are seasoned in fleet engagements and positioning a high-sec group is conditioned to all be in docking/jump range.

By the way, have any of your pilots been on a winning alliance tournament team?



Totally incomparable territories. If high-sec was as profitable as null-sec is with moons etc, then you would be in high sec with that whole bunch. All these Null > High statements are totally irrelevant to the topics that have been posted. If we needed more members, like you would in null, then we would be recruiting and filling the ranks. we quite frankly dont need a shitton of members to do whatever we want in high-sec.

And Xolve again; lifetime buddy, lifetime. You might notice my activity in-game has gone down allot in the recent two months; yet i've still killed more battleships than you have. whilst you have allot more total kills, those are mostly in frigates though, as youve killed 3x as many frigates as me. So again; totally out of context with ur frig/bs bullshit posts.

Do you PL guys really feel that relevant that you need to sperge over every single forum to get a feather stuck up ur ass to show how great you are?
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#147 - 2016-06-26 15:47:05 UTC
Luukje wrote:

And Xolve again; lifetime buddy, lifetime. You might notice my activity in-game has gone down allot in the recent two months; yet i've still killed more battleships than you have. whilst you have allot more total kills, those are mostly in frigates though, as youve killed 3x as many frigates as me. So again; totally out of context with ur frig/bs bullshit posts.


Dreads are the battleships of Null Sec, people just flat out barely use battleships out here (they die to bombs and get dumpstered by AHACs).

Luukje wrote:

Do you PL guys really feel that relevant that you need to sperge over every single forum to get a feather stuck up ur ass to show how great you are?


Your rage-baby posting is the only thing keeping me here Lol
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#148 - 2016-06-26 16:54:13 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Xolve you can pick a high sec merc group any time now


Project Nemesis.


Damn forgot about them, my mate who was in the Orphanage was also in Project Nemesis and he rated them very highly indeed, should have mentioned them in my list earlier. Good call in suggesting them, I agree.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Luukje
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#149 - 2016-06-26 18:37:06 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Luukje wrote:

And Xolve again; lifetime buddy, lifetime. You might notice my activity in-game has gone down allot in the recent two months; yet i've still killed more battleships than you have. whilst you have allot more total kills, those are mostly in frigates though, as youve killed 3x as many frigates as me. So again; totally out of context with ur frig/bs bullshit posts.


Dreads are the battleships of Null Sec, people just flat out barely use battleships out here (they die to bombs and get dumpstered by AHACs).

Luukje wrote:

Do you PL guys really feel that relevant that you need to sperge over every single forum to get a feather stuck up ur ass to show how great you are?


Your rage-baby posting is the only thing keeping me here Lol


babyrage? i think i'm quite calmy trying to explain you how your comments are totally irrelevant/stupid.
So again; if what you claim is true (which i doubt it is really), ur dread kill count is mega low opposite the rest.
So why are you commenting on my battleship/frigate ratio (which is 3:1), whilst ur dread/battleship count is shite opposite ur frigate count. It just doesn't make sense. YOU, Mr. Xolve, don't make sense.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#150 - 2016-06-26 19:48:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
Luukje wrote:
babyrage? i think i'm quite calmy trying to explain you how your comments are totally irrelevant/stupid.
So again; if what you claim is true (which i doubt it is really), ur dread kill count is mega low opposite the rest.
So why are you commenting on my battleship/frigate ratio (which is 3:1), whilst ur dread/battleship count is shite opposite ur frigate count. It just doesn't make sense. YOU, Mr. Xolve, don't make sense.


You're an idiot.
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#151 - 2016-06-26 22:07:24 UTC
Well, this degenerated quickly...
Luukje
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#152 - 2016-06-27 15:34:06 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Luukje wrote:
babyrage? i think i'm quite calmy trying to explain you how your comments are totally irrelevant/stupid.
So again; if what you claim is true (which i doubt it is really), ur dread kill count is mega low opposite the rest.
So why are you commenting on my battleship/frigate ratio (which is 3:1), whilst ur dread/battleship count is shite opposite ur frigate count. It just doesn't make sense. YOU, Mr. Xolve, don't make sense.


You're an idiot.


great response. Guess something intelligeble was too much to ask for.
Closing down my acitivities in here; Xolve has shown how much of a dumdum he is :)

HF in nullsec, where stuff really matters and ur skills shine.
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#153 - 2016-06-28 15:12:11 UTC
Freight Club used to bag great kills using refined tactics, to an outsider's eye they looked quite impressively efficient.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#154 - 2016-06-28 15:34:16 UTC
Tung Yoggi wrote:
Freight Club used to bag great kills using refined tactics, to an outsider's eye they looked quite impressively efficient.

But not to an insider's eye?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#155 - 2016-06-28 19:49:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Roenok Baalnorn
jack1974 wrote:
Luukje wrote:

Matter of opinion. Make a thread to include the other regions of new eden if you're so butthurt nobody is licking ur ego.


It's called the food chain.

NULL > Lowsec > High-sec

When a major alliance in Eve moves somewhere it creates a deadzone around their staging system. This usually turns into a region or two. Local entities either go inactive or they move away because they can't compete. The same effect happens when a major entity moves into a lowsec region. Even the larger groups like Snuff or Shadow Cartel will shut down super operations or move away so they can continue enjoy their version of dominance again.

Lets say an entity like Shadow Cartel, a large low-sec alliance, moved to Jita. On your best day you can form 20 vindicators, your purple macherial, and 10 nestors? Yes the fleet would be sufficient for high-sec but Shadow Cartel could bring the same fleet on their worst days for each timezone. Not only would their fleets boast superior numbers, each ship would be piloted by 1 person. As you all would be switching back and forth between your dps and your nestors alts SC would quickly be switching targets to confuse you while their logi pilots are solely focusing on their broadcast window. Furthermore whle your nestors are approaching your dps anchor SC's logi would be orbiting their DPS at 40-50km away from your guns.

In conclusion I do agree the tactics of high-sec mercs and low/null groups are different. While the low/null groups are seasoned in fleet engagements and positioning a high-sec group is conditioned to all be in docking/jump range.

By the way, have any of your pilots been on a winning alliance tournament team?



The irony in all this is that high sec pvp is more akin to hunting deer, and null pvp is more akin to actual war, yet high sec pvpers focus ( except gankers) on wardecs, and null alliance could care less about wardecs.

I have seen many times where a null alliance will displace resident alliances in lowsec and NPC null with relative ease. Actually i think goons is doing it right now.

Null alliances could care less about high sec. However if even a mediocre pvp null alliance decided to invade high sec, they would completely own any part of it they choose too.


But back to the OPs original question with an authentic answer: The most successful highsec mercs would be the one that fights and wins against other high sec merc alliances. Who that would be? I have no clue, as no one really cares about what goes on in high sec anyway as long as jita stays stocked.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#156 - 2016-06-28 21:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
-nullsec = elite rant goes here-

The *real* irony here is that you would presume to lecture us all on elite PvP in EVE.....with your entirely non-existent killboard.....

Seriously...even your corp's killboard as a whole is just plain sad...

I think we can all safely agree that you suck at PvP in any space you've ever tried to fly in, and shouldn't be lecturing anybody on it.


edit: I do also realize the irony of posting this comment from a forum alt. But the sad truth is that this forum alt's (nonexistent) PvP record is still better than your corp's. Just let that sink in for a while...

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#157 - 2016-06-28 22:38:08 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
-nullsec = elite rant goes here-

The *real* irony here is that you would presume to lecture us all on elite PvP in EVE.....with your entirely non-existent killboard.....

Seriously...even your corp's killboard as a whole is just plain sad...

I think we can all safely agree that you suck at PvP in any space you've ever tried to fly in, and shouldn't be lecturing anybody on it.


edit: I do also realize the irony of posting this comment from a forum alt. But the sad truth is that this forum alt's (nonexistent) PvP record is still better than your corp's. Just let that sink in for a while...


I wasnt even going to respond to this absurd and ridiculously ironic remark but i had to just LOL a forum alt telling a forum alt that their KB is bad/non existent. Just FYI, My main has never in 8-9 years posted on this forum.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#158 - 2016-06-28 23:23:55 UTC
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
I wasnt even going to respond to this absurd and ridiculously ironic remark but i had to just LOL a forum alt telling a forum alt that their KB is bad/non existent. Just FYI, My main has never in 8-9 years posted on this forum.

Your main account is nothing to write home about either. How does one manage to get so few kills in 8-9 years of 0.0 elite warfare?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#159 - 2016-06-29 01:34:17 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
I wasnt even going to respond to this absurd and ridiculously ironic remark but i had to just LOL a forum alt telling a forum alt that their KB is bad/non existent. Just FYI, My main has never in 8-9 years posted on this forum.

Your main account is nothing to write home about either. How does one manage to get so few kills in 8-9 years of 0.0 elite warfare?



Is that my main? Thanks for informing me. Any other characters you would like to claim on my behalf? I have multiple accounts like everyone else that lives in null. So feel free to keep wasting your time searching for possible alts of mine. Currently 42,190 characters on zkillboards. Good luck and happy hunting! Ill give you a hint: i am currently triple boxing in eve right now. Is that all of my accounts or do i have more? Your move, pawn.

PS: i hope you are better at real pvp than forum pvp.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#160 - 2016-06-29 11:23:34 UTC
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
I wasnt even going to respond to this absurd and ridiculously ironic remark but i had to just LOL a forum alt telling a forum alt that their KB is bad/non existent. Just FYI, My main has never in 8-9 years posted on this forum.

Your main account is nothing to write home about either. How does one manage to get so few kills in 8-9 years of 0.0 elite warfare?



Is that my main? Thanks for informing me. Any other characters you would like to claim on my behalf? I have multiple accounts like everyone else that lives in null. So feel free to keep wasting your time searching for possible alts of mine. Currently 42,190 characters on zkillboards. Good luck and happy hunting! Ill give you a hint: i am currently triple boxing in eve right now. Is that all of my accounts or do i have more? Your move, pawn.

PS: i hope you are better at real pvp than forum pvp.

TBH I suspect your corp's member list is a pretty accurate list of your active alts. None of them are particularly impressive. You mine ice and gate camp sporadically...wooo...big bad 0.0 guy eh?

I see people like you in high sec all the time, claiming that they are elite because they have alts all over 0.0. Oddly enough, when forced to rely only on themselves (without their giant fleets to hide behind) they are usually laughably bad at PvP. I've seen "elite 0.0" players lose 1v1 fights to legitimate carebears in high sec just because they aren't used to actually having to fight on their own.

I'm not saying there are not skilled PvPers in 0.0, who CAN fight anywhere they want and CHOOSE to fight in 0.0 because it has the best rewards for them. But I *AM* saying that living in 0.0 doesn't magically make you any better than anybody anywhere else. You can suck at EVE and still get by just fine in any of a thousand mediocre 0.0 corps who will never notice you hiding within their blobs.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)