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is the game all about the blob?
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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-01-14 20:57:42 UTC
Small corp wants good fights with no blobs? Go to wormhole space. Or WoW.

Dodixie > Hek
Rose Valley
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-01-14 22:12:38 UTC
I always thought this game was about exotic dancersBig smile
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#43 - 2012-01-14 22:42:22 UTC
Yes. 
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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#44 - 2012-01-14 22:52:13 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Fearless M0F0 wrote:
xxanjoahir wrote:
Discuss....

Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....

seems to be the norm these days ....


In WWII, the ratio of allied v/s German soldiers got up to 8.6 to 1 in 1944.

The ratio of allied v/s German aircraft on D-day was 7.4 to 1.

Source

I guess they blob because it works ... Roll


or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one..
include T34s

And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1

and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them.


Terrible?
not by a longshot, German tanks had thin mantles, were easy to track, had terrible weaknesses on the turret, and Italian tanks? they called them rolling coffins for a reason.

later in the war everything outperformed german aircraft, BF109s were the best it ever got for the lufties, once the mustangs and p38s came in it was all over, hell even the spitfires held their own in the face of overwhelming odds

you might want to get rid of those old soviet history books from the 50s, they have a couple of inaccuracies
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#45 - 2012-01-15 03:25:22 UTC
Insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Move your corp to test server, split up in to 2 groups and smash each other in to the ground. Let the blob junkies play with them selves.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-01-15 04:10:28 UTC
xxanjoahir wrote:
Dradius Calvantia wrote:
I get small gang good fights all the time....

You are doing it wrong.


I know thats a lie as we fight against you guys and your small gang is is always 10 more than what we bring.


my fleet + 1 = QQ Y U Blob

amidoinitrite
Ruiner Drudge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-01-15 08:31:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ruiner Drudge
Small gang complains about blob.
Solo pilot complains about small gang.

I don't understand how small gangs can complain about being killed by blobs, when they essentially sit on gates and blob solo pilots.


Morganta wrote:
later in the war everything outperformed german aircraft, BF109s were the best it ever got for the lufties, once the mustangs and p38s came in it was all over, hell even the spitfires held their own in the face of overwhelming odds


Me262?
Valei Khurelem
#48 - 2012-01-15 08:51:41 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Small corp wants good fights with no blobs? Go to wormhole space. Or WoW.


No, YOU go to WoW, ******* blob fleet noob.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-01-15 09:43:07 UTC
Yes.
Midori Tsu
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
#50 - 2012-01-15 10:23:13 UTC
Excuse me, but what defines a blob? Is someone bringing slightly more ship than you? Is there a certain percentage between the fleet sizes? Or is there a set number of ships? i would very much like to know exactly how big a fleet has to be to be considered a blob.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-01-15 10:51:29 UTC
Midori Tsu wrote:
Excuse me, but what defines a blob? Is someone bringing slightly more ship than you? Is there a certain percentage between the fleet sizes? Or is there a set number of ships? i would very much like to know exactly how big a fleet has to be to be considered a blob.


A blob is any fight that outnumbers you by 1 or more in which you lose.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-01-15 10:59:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinaculus
ElQuirko wrote:
Small corp wants good fights with no blobs? Go to wormhole space. Or WoW.


And please don't back to WoW. It's an awful game.

Wormhole space is, however, packed full of carebears in multi-billion ISK cruisers in tiny corps that generally don't know how to PVP well.

Just saying, if you gank one then you get an A-Type module drop. If they blueball you then you run their sites for them and make enough ISK to go buy a B-Type module for your trouble. And you can do all that while making people with no friends cry.

That's what I hear, anyway.

Or you run into another corp in their doing the same thing, and then.....GOOD FIGHT FOR EVERYBODY! \o/

Edit: And seeing local-smack in a wormhole is just....eerie. That box isn't supposed to have anything in it!

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#53 - 2012-01-15 15:40:10 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Fearless M0F0 wrote:
xxanjoahir wrote:
Discuss....

Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....

seems to be the norm these days ....


In WWII, the ratio of allied v/s German soldiers got up to 8.6 to 1 in 1944.

The ratio of allied v/s German aircraft on D-day was 7.4 to 1.

Source

I guess they blob because it works ... Roll


or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one..
include T34s

And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1

and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them.

It was the spirit which allowed Germans to win their battles and fight till the end, when everyone else (except may be just us, Russians) would have already resigned.

I mean, I can't help smilling thinking of those 2 mere Panthers of 1st SS division (Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler) ewaporating a crapload of Shermans supported by infantry.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-01-15 15:50:20 UTC
Yeah, that and amphetamine.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-01-15 16:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Fon Revedhort wrote:

or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one..
include T34s

And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1

and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them.

It was the spirit which allowed Germans to win their battles and fight till the end, when everyone else (except may be just us, Russians) would have already resigned.

I mean, I can't help smilling thinking of those 2 mere Panthers of 1st SS division (Leibstandarte Adolf ******) ewaporating a crapload of Shermans supported by infantry.


Small lesson in history: Unlike the Wehrmacht, the regular german army, the Waffen-SS was not a military oragnization but a 100% political institution. Their leaders did for the most part have no military training; career and position within their ranks was determined by political success within the leading political party. Being a political tool, they always were provided the best and most recent weaponry, also the propaganda always focused on the Waffen-SS to build them up as national heroes- and to **** off their worst rivals, the "regular" Wehrmacht officers.
Having no military knowledge worth mentioning, the Waffen SS only had one tactic: "Forward, no matter the odds". For the most part they did not operate to capture strategical points at minimal losses, they just rushed head on into any "blob" of enemies to supply juicy killmails to the propaganda machinery.
The propaganda seems to have worked outstandingly, as I see that Russians are still speaking with respect and admiration about them. But for the military success of Germany in WW II the Waffen-SS was merely a footnote- a small gang of wannabe elitists looking for goodfights that got smashed by the allied blobs.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#56 - 2012-01-15 16:41:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Fon Revedhort
Propadanda is something when you lose horribly due to being caught with your pants down or simply being bad at combat in the first place and then call it a massacre or war-crime.

As for the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS, the differences were getting smaller and smaller throughout the war and those 2 entities were never really any 'rivals', much less 'worst' ones.

You seem to be confusing Allgemeine and Waffen-SS, btw.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#57 - 2012-01-15 16:47:05 UTC
To paraphrase a line from Tremors:

"Exactly how many ships do you need to have a blob? Is three enough? Is there a minimum blob?"

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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#58 - 2012-01-15 16:47:56 UTC
This is the most bizarre application of Goodwin's Law I've seen in a long time. ShockedBig smile
Jenshae Chiroptera
#59 - 2012-01-15 16:52:00 UTC
Game does not have to be the Zerg. Go give the lock time thread a bump.

It talks about how the more enemies that lock onto one ship, the longer it takes other enemies to lock onto it.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#60 - 2012-01-15 16:54:49 UTC
Ruiner Drudge wrote:
Small gang complains about blob.
Solo pilot complains about small gang.

I don't understand how small gangs can complain about being killed by blobs, when they essentially sit on gates and blob solo pilots.


Morganta wrote:
later in the war everything outperformed german aircraft, BF109s were the best it ever got for the lufties, once the mustangs and p38s came in it was all over, hell even the spitfires held their own in the face of overwhelming odds


Me262?


too little too late
generally too fast for dogfighting, extremely short flight time, unstable engines with a horrid mix nasty chemicals for fuel
ignore the movies, there wasn't enough 262s to have an impact that late in the war, it was an innovation, it was the first operational combat jet. Of course it was better then anything else in the air, at least at killing bombers. but with a couple of operational Staffel it made no impact