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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#141 - 2016-06-23 16:15:01 UTC
Nanako Chosokabe wrote:
Stardate: 23.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: Roadtrip

Good morning,

So I'm closer to both my literal and figurative home as I decided to return to Essence yesterday for a few days of R&R from the war. Caldari's defense seem to be melting away so I'm guessing the Gallente brass wont miss me.

After parking the shuttle, registering my clone and sorting-out the loot I brought back, I headed to Dodixie to buy/build a cheap little explorer ship for my downtime. After insurance, I'm guessing the Imicus ran me about 3M ISK so really that's not bad at all.

As I've run tones of explorer missions in simulators back at home before my days in space, I quickly picked-up the practical aspects and got right too it. I first found a quiet 0.7 system to test in and without issue, locked in on a cosmic signature combat site and cleared it of enemy ships. But then I headed into LowSec to do the same and all I found were wormholes in the three systems I explored. I know that's just the luck of the draw but I was a bit disappointed. I'll probably do the same today and hope for better results. Don't think I'm changing career paths, this is just a little vacation...

I received some great advice from other captains as to the direction that I should be going in regards to the T1 Frigate with T2 mods, a Navy Frigate or moving up to a destroyer. I've decided that the most cost effective way to both increase DPS and increase FW earnings is to remain in Frigates but push towards T2 mods. That way I'll be able to capture BOTH novice and small complexes as opposed to just smalls if I went -up to a destroyer. Lots of great people around here.

[NC]


You shoulda' took a peek in the WH's. They have neat stuff inside of them. If you're quick about running away and remember to bookmark, you could even get some good loot out of it...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2016-06-23 17:14:15 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
...and remember to bookmark...


Wish I had read that a bit soon. Just spent a good 45 minutes re-scanning for the WH I initially went though. Never found it but luckily I did find one that got me close enough...the other options were either more WS/NS so, I took the one that got me close.

That was a good lesson...Shocked
Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2016-06-24 13:54:53 UTC
Stardate: 24.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: Enter the worms!

So as a little change of pace, I headed back to LowSec in search of a wormhole to NullSec or Wormhole Space. As luck would have it, after hacking a data site I found a WH to NullSec and went in. Once there I hacked 3 of 5 data sites and then took a look around. Pretty fun to be that far down in the rabbit hole.

I wasn't impressed with the data hacking and scanning down anomalies isn't something I'd want to do as a second job but I think I might be interested either gas mining in WH space (at a later date as the skill books are pretty expensive) and/or ore mining in NullSec. I bought and fitted a Venture for the ladder but didn't get a chance to give it a try yesterday.

I really like the "cat n'mouse aspect of both FW and Low/Null Sec so that coupled with mining high yield or valuable ores/gases might be interesting...especially if eventually as a tertiary roll I start manufacturing. Lots to daydream about.

So today, back to the worms!

[NC]
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#144 - 2016-06-24 17:43:09 UTC
Nanako Chosokabe wrote:
Stardate: 24.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: Enter the worms!

So as a little change of pace, I headed back to LowSec in search of a wormhole to NullSec or Wormhole Space. As luck would have it, after hacking a data site I found a WH to NullSec and went in. Once there I hacked 3 of 5 data sites and then took a look around. Pretty fun to be that far down in the rabbit hole.

I wasn't impressed with the data hacking and scanning down anomalies isn't something I'd want to do as a second job but I think I might be interested either gas mining in WH space (at a later date as the skill books are pretty expensive) and/or ore mining in NullSec. I bought and fitted a Venture for the ladder but didn't get a chance to give it a try yesterday.

I really like the "cat n'mouse aspect of both FW and Low/Null Sec so that coupled with mining high yield or valuable ores/gases might be interesting...especially if eventually as a tertiary roll I start manufacturing. Lots to daydream about.

So today, back to the worms!

[NC]

Please refrain from daydreaming while the ship is undocked.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Loki Yamaguchi
Level 42 Industries
#145 - 2016-06-26 00:55:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Loki Yamaguchi
Shocked
Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2016-06-26 01:16:48 UTC
Stardate: 25.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: Bad Girl

So yes. In wormholes, you can die really, really fast if you stop paying attention for just one second.

I thought I was doing good at pounding away at the D-Scan when all of a sudden a Tactical Destroyer (Heretic) just appeared (Covert Ops or just bad d-scan?) and bubbled me before I could put my coffee down. Actually I did try and cloak but then promptly uncloaked as I wanted to warp away (idiot). Then I realized that I should have been orbiting the roid I was mining as in LowSec (idiot) to some momentum in reserve. Then I realized that even though I knew I was in a warp bubble, I still hit "warp-to" (idiot). Only then did I fire my main engine and light my afterburner...I think I survived three salvos before exploding and I think a third ship joined in but I'm not sure really.

So lesson learnt. I rebuild a venture for WH-space that's a dirt cheap shield tank 5mn microwarp escape artist. Haven't tried it yet so this enthusiasm may change. On the other hand, I've had a lot of luck mining in LowSec...no problems there.

Speaking of mining...I've developed a bit of a bad habit of relieving some local jet can miners of their ore. I scanned a system and found over 8 cans basically labeled "come take my ore" so I bought a industrial hauler and did just that. I have 90K m3 of Plagioclase just gathered in the last 24 hours. I have a little twinge of guilt but that goes away pretty quickly.

Oh well, I know it's a slippery slope but......weeeeeeeeeeeeeee....Pirate

[NC]
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#147 - 2016-06-26 01:19:34 UTC
((Don't ya just hate it when that happens?))
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#148 - 2016-06-26 02:59:29 UTC
Nanako Chosokabe wrote:
Stardate: 25.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: Bad Girl

So yes. In wormholes, you can die really, really fast if you stop paying attention for just one second.

I thought I was doing good at pounding away at the D-Scan when all of a sudden a Tactical Destroyer (Heretic) just appeared (Covert Ops or just bad d-scan?) and bubbled me before I could put my coffee down. Actually I did try and cloak but then promptly uncloaked as I wanted to warp away (idiot). Then I realized that I should have been orbiting the roid I was mining as in LowSec (idiot) to some momentum in reserve. Then I realized that even though I knew I was in a warp bubble, I still hit "warp-to" (idiot). Only then did I fire my main engine and light my afterburner...I think I survived three salvos before exploding and I think a third ship joined in but I'm not sure really.

So lesson learnt. I rebuild a venture for WH-space that's a dirt cheap shield tank 5mn microwarp escape artist. Haven't tried it yet so this enthusiasm may change. On the other hand, I've had a lot of luck mining in LowSec...no problems there.

Speaking of mining...I've developed a bit of a bad habit of relieving some local jet can miners of their ore. I scanned a system and found over 8 cans basically labeled "come take my ore" so I bought a industrial hauler and did just that. I have 90K m3 of Plagioclase just gathered in the last 24 hours. I have a little twinge of guilt but that goes away pretty quickly.

Oh well, I know it's a slippery slope but......weeeeeeeeeeeeeee....Pirate

[NC]


Prospect. If you want to ninja mine in WH space you want a prospect. Also, don't orbit the rocks you are mining.get to your optimal on the other side of them relitive to the belts warp in point and align out to a safe, planet, moon, or station. A safe spot is best.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2016-06-26 03:50:53 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Prospect. If you want to ninja mine in WH space you want a prospect. Also, don't orbit the rocks you are mining.get to your optimal on the other side of them relitive to the belts warp in point and align out to a safe, planet, moon, or station. A safe spot is best.


Well considering a Prospect takes 3, Level 5 skills, unlikely for a while. Not to mention that unfitted it's 60 times more expensive (Jita prices) and that's before fitting.

What exactly makes that the must have ship for ninja-mining WHs?

As far as I can tell, both suffer from being most vulnerable while mining. Both can get bubbled. Both need to burn-out of the bubble. The only advantage for the Prospect is that it doesn't need to uncloak before warping-out. But if a Venture survived the bubble then just stay cloaked and motor-boat away...and pray. In LowSec that must be a great ship but I don't see the cost vs benefits (of survivability).


I'm not sure I agree with the orbiting advice. I agree that normally aligning is the number one thing to do after finding a nice spot but in WH/Null(?) where bubbles are a huge fear, isn't getting out of the bubble the most important thing? I'd rather already be moving at (apx) 1800m/s when a Interdiction Destroyer shows-up and tosses a bubble at me rather than trying to accelerate from 0 out of the bubble. Plus as soon as I'm clear, shut-off the MWD and poof, well above 75% and ready to jump.

...all theoretical of course.

Fill in the blanks please Big smile
Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2016-06-26 03:52:16 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
((Don't ya just hate it when that happens?))



I'm expecting another lecture from Kolodi Ramal....now where did I put those earplugs...
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#151 - 2016-06-26 04:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Prospect is the covert cloak one right? It moves faster cloaked and doesn't need to uncloak to warp. Thus the mwd/cloak trick works alot better for escaping (not to mention is the only cloak related method really viable for escaping a bubble) as long as you change your vector a bit once you cloak so they shoot past you trying to decloaking you.
Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2016-06-26 04:44:14 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Prospect is the covert cloak one right? It moves faster cloaked and doesn't need to uncloak to warp. Thus the mwd/cloak trick works alot better for escaping (not to mention is the only cloak related method really viable for escaping a bubble) as long as you change your vector a bit once you cloak so they shoot past you trying to decloaking you.


But how is that different from a MWD+Cloak Venture except of course for the uncloaking to warp part?


I do get what you're saying but is that really worth the 60x price, the 3x level five skills to learn all for ninja mining? Living in Null sure as you're dealing with gates but with WHs, not so much.

I'm huge on numbers and cost/benefit so...having a hard time seeing this. PLUS I'm bloody new to WHS and rather ignorant...Oops
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#153 - 2016-06-26 05:16:56 UTC
Nanako Chosokabe wrote:
I'm expecting another lecture from Kolodi Ramal....now where did I put those earplugs...

A loss can and should reveal mistakes: from bad tactical habits that had any number of reasons to go unnoticed, to human error in the moment. Your responsibility then - to the people killed by those mistakes and to your next crew - is to make use of what we are: pilots who can learn from losses that would have ended our own lives too if we weren't capsuleers. There's no doubt you're very capable of that.
Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2016-06-26 16:35:57 UTC
Stardate: 26.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: Is it stealing, ore not?

Hi there,

As I submitted my notes late yesterday, this update will be short. I didn't have a ton of time last evening as there were some pressing matters to attend to on the station. So I only went out to stretch my legs, kill a few pirate ships and visit a 0.4 combat site (I forget the type), which after destroying the first wave, realized that taking on 4x Battle cruisers might be a stretch in my little Tristan...not to mention I was low on ammo.

I actually was a bit giddy this morning as I wanted to see if the "free-ore giveaway" was still going on so I hoped into my pod and took a look about 3 AUs out from the bests. Sure enough, there was the "fleet" doing its thing and dropping cans faster than an Andole rabbit dropps "raisins". I scanned down where the cans were and where the mining ships were. Back to the station I went for both a coffee and my uber-tanked Miasmos, the HMCS Liberator, before doing three runs and picking-up another 150K m3 of ore.

I now have a ton of of I'm saving as for manufacturing my own ships....just making the blueprints better...

A good start to the day.

[NC]
Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2016-06-27 14:59:40 UTC
Stardate: 27.6.2016.118
Region: Essene
Entry: WTH

When I started taking ore from the cans in space, at first I felt exhilaration followed by a little guilt. I was pretty sure that I wasn't seen (except for Concord's suspect bulletin) and that made the crime anonymous which in turn made me feel less guilty. No accusation, no guilt. As time went on, I felt emboldened and any sense of guilt seemed to disappear with each shipment and I was doing less to hide my actions.

Now, after having amassed over 692,000m3 of ore worth an estimated 134M ISP, I have nothing but contempt for the miner. My guess is that he's using some sort of automation to control multiple ships and while that seems to great idea, it also seems like a huge liability if mismanaged. So far I've identified 8 ships in their corporation but with possible only 1 or 2 really captains. Either way, if somebody is going to be that oblivious to what's going on around them then I have zero sympathy.

My estimated net worth is now 451M with 27% of that in ore, and 55% of that in items on the market. I'm actually getting a bit cash poor but I should be good for a bit. Worst-case, I run a few missions for a corporation.

[NC]
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#156 - 2016-06-27 15:11:45 UTC
Nanako Chosokabe wrote:
My guess is that he's using some sort of automation to control multiple ships and while that seems to great idea, it also seems like a huge liability if mismanaged. So far I've identified 8 ships in their corporation but with possible only 1 or 2 really captains. Either way, if somebody is going to be that oblivious to what's going on around them then I have zero sympathy.

Remote clone control is legal for CONCORD while each clone is registered as an independent capsule operator. To make it short - CONCORD doesn't give a drek. However, these "capsuleers" are nothing more but puppets. Help Saint James to deal with that slavery.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#157 - 2016-06-27 18:28:58 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Nanako Chosokabe wrote:
My guess is that he's using some sort of automation to control multiple ships and while that seems to great idea, it also seems like a huge liability if mismanaged. So far I've identified 8 ships in their corporation but with possible only 1 or 2 really captains. Either way, if somebody is going to be that oblivious to what's going on around them then I have zero sympathy.

Remote clone control is legal for CONCORD while each clone is registered as an independent capsule operator. To make it short - CONCORD doesn't give a drek. However, these "capsuleers" are nothing more but puppets. Help Saint James to deal with that slavery.

Or, conversely, let them be and continue just fetching their ore. You really don't want to get mixed up with James and CODE. I would have to set you to KoS and that would be a shame.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#158 - 2016-06-27 20:23:17 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You really don't want to get mixed up with James and CODE. I would have to set you to KoS and that would be a shame.

Is there any KoS-list without my name already?
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#159 - 2016-06-27 20:48:34 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You really don't want to get mixed up with James and CODE. I would have to set you to KoS and that would be a shame.

Is there any KoS-list without my name already?

Mine. I really don't care enough about you to put you there...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Nanako Chosokabe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2016-06-27 20:59:29 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Or, conversely, let them be and continue just fetching their ore. You really don't want to get mixed up with James and CODE. I would have to set you to KoS and that would be a shame.


Oh that's what I was thinking...Why turn-off an ISK faucet when it's still producing? Seems the miner is catching on now and leaving less cans about now so I'll probably lay off for a bit in the hopes he gets lazy again....