Test Server Feedback

I wish it worked as well as it could do, but once it's finished seemingly trying to pick a ship at random from the hanger, inevitably complaining that it was missing items, trying to find the right one in the horrible contracts item picker, and then giving up, it's often easier to just do them manually.

It wouldn't be ~quite~ so bad if we could make corp / alliance contracts for longer than 2 weeks (a few months for example) but sadly no such luck =\

Apaprently this is somewhat already commented and is clearly not for this release, but I created mockup what I think would be good additions to tool. In my oppinion this could solve multiple cases presented in reddit and here time to time.

So features:

Move or "copy" renaming option to bulkfit window (imho, the correct place)

Add way to select location sued to find items and hulls. Depending on the item storage code, I think items could be first moved to personal hangar (includes permissions checks etc). For multi buy, it should reset the dialog back to personal hangar as that is the destination for buy all.

Also moved fit rigs to upper part of window as in this layout it is more fitting place.

The mockups: http://imgur.com/a/4U4hw (these use components from bulkfit, industry and fitting manager)

Any case good work guys and thanks :)

We will be changing this in a few days

Tbh, I would love to do that and will be looking into it, but it complicates things quite a bit so we decided to stick to the basics for at least the first iteration :)


Basically to reduce the complexity. Assembled ships can have rigs and modules already, stuff in their cargo, insurance, killmarks, shipskins, be damaged, have module damage etc. By only allowing it for packaged ships we know we won't have any complicating factors due to that, we start with a clean slate.
Since all packaged ships are the same, we can just pick any stack to fit from but if we allowed you to do this for assembled ships, picking the ships would become more complex.
Figuring out what items were missing would also become more complex, requiring you to inspect the inventories of all the ships that were to be fitted and then once fitting the ship removing or moving modules around based on the fit and how the ship is already fitted, which has certain issues with it when doing it on such a large scale.

Hope that makes sense and that you still find the feature useful despite these restrictions

While attempting to stuff a ship's cargo with a list of special edition commodities, I was reminded about reserved characters in XML, and wished we could more easily fit a ship's cargo with any item. ( An item name with "&" will not parse as a value in quotes in XML and must be replaced by its entity reference "&" )

About half of the items in my test worked. Most of the items that were not recognized had apostrophes. But I don't know if that was really the problem, since a couple with apostrophes did pass the test.

Can we ever expect T3's to support Multi-Fit in the near future? I know its probably slightly harder to implement but it's not like you can't use the fitting tool to do individual hulls with subsystems already. As someone who will frequently fit and contract a few hundred ships at a time I was really looking forward to this feature but since I usually focus on mass fitting T3s I found the lack of support for those really disappointing.

I know there are a few quirks with them like 0m3 cargo bays when not actively piloted and the slot layout changing based on the subs but its not like you don't already handle that for individual hulls using the fitting tool. I assume the problem with T3s isn't the same as the linking fits in chat limitation either or you would still allow it although its not fully supported like the modules/items in the cargo.

It is nice to see that the fitting window will show the unsupported modules in the cargo for fittings now and more specifically that it shows the quantities of them. In the past that wasn't visible and even though the imported XML files with the fits could have a quantity for those modules in the cargo the process of fitting only ever moved a single module, not a quantity of them.

OMG,
CCP karkur For prez