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Update to EVE Launcher GUI v. 1.968

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Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2016-06-23 01:02:14 UTC
I actually like not having the username saved (I fill it with a password manager anyway) but why does it still default to having the cursor in the password field? There is never a situation where you'll be typing the password without the username, so it should default to the username field if the username is blank.
Skipper Riddles
Ivory Vanguard
#102 - 2016-06-23 02:22:22 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
I actually like not having the username saved (I fill it with a password manager anyway) but why does it still default to having the cursor in the password field? There is never a situation where you'll be typing the password without the username, so it should default to the username field if the username is blank.


That is not entirely true. Many sites retain your username but leave password as the focus entry point. I believe every launcher used in eve over 3 years does the very same thing. They retained the last used account used.
Leaving only password to fill in so the focus was there.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2016-06-23 10:20:48 UTC
Msgerbs wrote:
I actually like not having the username saved (I fill it with a password manager anyway) but why does it still default to having the cursor in the password field? There is never a situation where you'll be typing the password without the username, so it should default to the username field if the username is blank.


And normally the launcher retains your used usernames in a drop down. Or at least mine does. I just pick one, type in the password, and go.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2016-06-23 10:28:31 UTC
Skipper Riddles wrote:


Could it be spying?
Download on demand?
Just askin'


Spying? LOL. If CCP wants to spy on me, then I feel sorry for the level of boredom they're encountering.

And I get the download on demand thing. My point is, what changed that's causing the performance degradation?

Here's the scenario:

Prior to the launcher update, I could open the launcher, launch three clients by hitting play all, and go on about my day, forgetting the launcher even existed until I needed to change characters.

Post launcher update, I have to close the launcher once the third client gets a green bar (indicating it's started) or it will never actually open on the screen. It just sort of hangs in the background. And let me be clear. I'm not anti new launcher. Personally, I think it's nice being able to start multiple clients at once, and not having to retype usernames and passwords just to change characters. I'm more curious as to what changed that is causing it to consume so much more of my computer's resources than it did a week ago.

Regarding the exe file method of starting the game. It still works, you most likely have the wrong copy of the exefile. I know I have two, because I haven't removed the old installation of Eve from when I upgraded to the new launcher (it actually installed a second copy). The copy you want to use is in the Shared Cache folder, which is (on windows 7) in
C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\tq\bin

YMMV.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
CCP nLock
C C P
C C P Alliance
#105 - 2016-06-23 10:46:26 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Ok, normally I love the work you guys do, but since this update, my PC flat refuses to load more than two clients, and loading the second one takes about two minutes, where it used to take about 30 seconds. I gotta ask, what did you guys change because it's not happy about something.


Please try restarting the launcher or pressing the update icon in the upper-right corner.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2016-06-23 10:50:49 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Ok, normally I love the work you guys do, but since this update, my PC flat refuses to load more than two clients, and loading the second one takes about two minutes, where it used to take about 30 seconds. I gotta ask, what did you guys change because it's not happy about something.


Please try restarting the launcher or pressing the update icon in the upper-right corner.


Well, I've restarted it multiple times, since I just close it now when it opens the clients I need.

Can you be more specific about what this update icon looks like? Do you mean refresh under the E?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
CCP nLock
C C P
C C P Alliance
#107 - 2016-06-23 11:06:04 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
CCP nLock wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Ok, normally I love the work you guys do, but since this update, my PC flat refuses to load more than two clients, and loading the second one takes about two minutes, where it used to take about 30 seconds. I gotta ask, what did you guys change because it's not happy about something.


Please try restarting the launcher or pressing the update icon in the upper-right corner.


Well, I've restarted it multiple times, since I just close it now when it opens the clients I need.

Can you be more specific about what this update icon looks like? Do you mean refresh under the E?



It is a blue circular refresh icon. If you have restarted the launcher already you should have the latest version though, so it's become hidden. There is a problem with rendering in the launcher, so before current GUI version(1.793) the launcher was causing heavy CPU load. However, now there are no persistent animations and the load shouldn't be anywhere near that anymore.
roy oakes
boom boom long time
#108 - 2016-06-23 11:15:58 UTC
all fine and dandy.


WHAT ABOUT CHARACTER SWITCHING WITHOUT HAVING TO RELOG?

https://wiki.eveonline.com/?_ga=1.263942732.1175653019.1457937776
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2016-06-23 16:48:41 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:


It is a blue circular refresh icon. If you have restarted the launcher already you should have the latest version though, so it's become hidden. There is a problem with rendering in the launcher, so before current GUI version(1.793) the launcher was causing heavy CPU load. However, now there are no persistent animations and the load shouldn't be anywhere near that anymore.


Ok, I double checked and I do have the latest version (1.973). I did some more playing around, and if I launch my clients, then close the launcher, wait til the clients are fully logged in (meaning I can see the game screen), and then reopen the launcher, utilization stays where I expect it to be.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
CCP nLock
C C P
C C P Alliance
#110 - 2016-06-23 17:40:34 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP nLock
Rivr Luzade wrote:
CCP nLock wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
CCP nLock wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Stuhlmann wrote:
You maybe should have mentioned that the launcher forgets every stored account. :/

And how do I reliably add accounts to that "generic list"? I just tried repeatedly to log in my accounts as follows:

  • Logged in 3 of my accounts individually after this annoying total reset.
  • Closed the launcher.
  • Opened the launcher and logged one account back in and found that only 2 accounts were logged in, the one I entered the credentials for and another account.
  • Logged a missing account back in individually.
  • Closed the launcher again, opened it again, entered the same account's credentials as in step 3 and again only found the same 2 accounts logged in as in step 3.
How to fix that?


Are you ticking the "Remember this account" box?

Of course not. That has not been necessary nor should it be necessary. I do not want the launcher to auto login the accounts when I start the launcher, I want them to be logged in when I enter the credentials of one account. Like it has been for months now and should continue to be.


You still have to tick "remember this account" in order to store the accounts that you want logged in automatically. Then you can press logout and the next time you log in, don't tick the "remember this account" box on the account you use to log in with!

This is not exactly how it works right now. I have logged in all 3 accounts without checking the "Remember this account (insecure)" box ticked. 2 of the accounts log in automatically when I enter the credentials (Rivr's, of which I enter the credentials, and another), but the 3rd account does not log in automatically. This is a weird behavior and not nearly as convenient as the behavior that I am used to from before this update.

Funny thing: If I use the credentials of the account that does not want to auto-login when I enter Rivr's account's credentials, all 3 accounts are logged in just fine.
Guess I need to use his login credentials again to login my accounts. And still not used the Remember Account checkbox.


GUI 1.979 is being deployed. Account storing and recalling should now work more predictably.
ube smoked
State War Academy
Caldari State
#111 - 2016-06-23 18:14:28 UTC
Today it forgot an account yet again. The other account was not forgotten. Ugh
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2016-06-23 18:21:41 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:
ed to use his login credentials again to login my accounts. And still not used the Remember Account checkbox.


GUI 1.979 is being deployed. Account storing and recalling should now work more predictably.[/quote]

That has also, apparently, corrected my resource consumption issue. Performance for multiple clients is now back to roughly what it was before 1.973 (on my machine). Still not sure what changed, but I'll take it.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
DiDDleR
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2016-06-23 18:22:02 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:


Attention:In some cases, stored account names and settings may be lost and have to be re-entered.



Twice in as many days - I only have 3 x accounts to add into the launcher but I can imagine some folks have a lot more.

Its also relinking the accounts to different profiles for multiple screens etc..

Perhaps next time CCP you can backup the account information before updating the launcher and then restore it after the update?? Just a thought...

DiDDleR
Brain Gehirn
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#114 - 2016-06-23 19:01:05 UTC
Thanks for trying to improve the launcher!
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#115 - 2016-06-23 19:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: u3pog
DiDDleR wrote:
CCP nLock wrote:


Attention:In some cases, stored account names and settings may be lost and have to be re-entered.



Twice in as many days - I only have 3 x accounts to add into the launcher but I can imagine some folks have a lot more.

Its also relinking the accounts to different profiles for multiple screens etc..

Perhaps next time CCP you can backup the account information before updating the launcher and then restore it after the update?? Just a thought...

DiDDleR


I did not have problems until these recent updates. The launcher forgot three times all my accounts even though I had checked the tick to remember the accounts. Found this thread now that it forgot everything once again. What's causing this? It's really irritating to add 13 accounts every time, what if I had 50?

Is there a file where account information is being stored? I'd like to backup the information, so if it resets again I could simply overwrite.

Edit: Two times actually, this time as I entered the first account, all other accounts reappeared. Is this some kind of security measure, or the launcher just recalled everything? Big smile
Oxigun
Halliburton Heavy Industries
#116 - 2016-06-24 00:49:02 UTC
ube smoked wrote:
Today it forgot an account yet again. The other account was not forgotten. Ugh


I thought so too but when I logged in at least one of the accounts, the rest populated. I think it's a feature rather than a bug...
Danny Fondu
Doomheim
#117 - 2016-06-24 04:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Danny Fondu
Blawdy hell m8
Aineko Macx
#118 - 2016-06-24 04:27:44 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:
GUI 1.979 is being deployed. Account storing and recalling should now work more predictably.

Negative. Now it doesn't remember any accounts. And if I check the box it remembers but there isn't ANY credentials check on startup.
The desired behavior is: On startup, the credentials for ONE account have to be entered, then all accounts are ready.

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Darkblad
#119 - 2016-06-24 07:19:30 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:
This has been found to be caused by the animation of the update icon. Since the launcher is using CPU for rendering, the animation has now been shut off. Please press the troublesome icon to reload the GUI.
Funny that a similar Icon's animation caused CPU load in the past. That one also is static now. Since quite some time Blink

NPE-ISD-Übersetzt!
CCP nLock
C C P
C C P Alliance
#120 - 2016-06-24 09:07:34 UTC
Brain Gehirn wrote:
Thanks for trying to improve the launcher!


Thanks for staying positive!