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Good Job CCP for breaking carriers

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Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#1 - 2016-06-23 00:56:00 UTC
The nerf to carriers in the upcoming patch/expansion has completely broken them. Its so bad that you wont see them used unless max webs/tp are on field to apply their damage (all damage is missile damage). It's now a simple N+1 ship for the blobs and even then you might as well use a dread. For the small gang pvpers who complain about them, they don't understand or failed to adapt to carriers. Sure carriers gate camping with sebos fitted is OP and should be nerf hammered but breaking carriers completely is ridiculous. It's bad folks.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2016-06-23 00:59:37 UTC
This thread will be going places.










And by places, Doc is referring to where ISD sends them.

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#3 - 2016-06-23 01:30:09 UTC
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?

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Kalpel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-06-23 01:59:03 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
This thread will be going places.










And by places, Doc is referring to where ISD sends them.



Indeed, lol

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#5 - 2016-06-23 02:02:03 UTC
No one likes to see their favourite toy get nerfed, but you knew this was coming.

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Shalashaska Adam
Snakes and Lasers
#6 - 2016-06-23 05:16:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalashaska Adam
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


A carrier by definition is an exception to that rule, as it completely sucks at doing damage to things it's own size.

Its entire purpose is to fight subcaps. It doesn't have any 'big weapons', it deploys craft that have small weapons.
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#7 - 2016-06-23 06:29:19 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


Flying Svipul, calling others overpowered. Lol

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Anthar Thebess
#8 - 2016-06-23 06:53:22 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


Yes, this is bad - your ship should not die.

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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#9 - 2016-06-23 07:17:40 UTC
I guess the days of hot-dropping carriers full of gankers onto unsuspecting victims are over.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-06-23 07:29:45 UTC
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
I guess the days of hot-dropping carriers full of gankers onto unsuspecting victims are over.

How many gankers can fit in a carrier?

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#11 - 2016-06-23 08:11:25 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


svipuls are cancer and you deserved to be alpha'd for flying another ship which badly needs a nerf bat

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-06-23 08:29:49 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


svipuls are cancer and you deserved to be alpha'd for flying another ship which badly needs a nerf bat


Show us on the stargate doll where those evil Svipuls alpha'd you off the field.

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#13 - 2016-06-23 08:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


svipuls are cancer and you deserved to be alpha'd for flying another ship which badly needs a nerf bat


Show us on the stargate doll where those evil Svipuls alpha'd you off the field.


[o] <------ Stargate ------ { x } <------ Estimated position of Tengu.....here you can see starship around 15km from stargate when the violation of Lan Wang occurred, nerf svipuls

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Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#14 - 2016-06-23 08:51:31 UTC
fighters are too strong too. Ships which can tank them (BS) cant kill dam things due to their tiny sig radius.

Good those are finally getting nerfed. Gatecamping carriers are aids.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-06-23 08:51:53 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


svipuls are cancer and you deserved to be alpha'd for flying another ship which badly needs a nerf bat


Show us on the stargate doll where those evil Svipuls alpha'd you off the field.


[o] <------ Stargate ------ { x } <------ Estimated position of Tengu.....here you can see starship around 15km from stargate when the violation of Lan Wang occurred, nerf svipuls


That is indeed damning evidence. I propose we show this to CCP to show how evil those Svipuls are! #ThinkoftheInternetSpaceShips

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#16 - 2016-06-23 08:54:23 UTC
I am already building a powerpoint based on that sketch

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Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#17 - 2016-06-23 10:58:50 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
The nerf to carriers in the upcoming patch/expansion has completely broken them. Its so bad that you wont see them used unless max webs/tp are on field to apply their damage (all damage is missile damage). It's now a simple N+1 ship for the blobs and even then you might as well use a dread. For the small gang pvpers who complain about them, they don't understand or failed to adapt to carriers. Sure carriers gate camping with sebos fitted is OP and should be nerf hammered but breaking carriers completely is ridiculous. It's bad folks.

CCP no! bad, go home...go home!



Hey, I really like carriers. I really like the way they've been changed to be actually useful and have a role aside from being either bait or logi.

But having seen the way they are being used right now, I admit they probably need to be nerfed a little so that they are no longer able to do things like, say, park 1000km off a gate, insta-lock and alpha almost any sub-cap of cruiser class or smaller with almost zero risk of being caught doing it.

Clearly, they need some adjusting. Personally I think a slight reduction in scan resolution and targeting range ought to balance things out OK without making them useless against subcaps as they were before.

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#18 - 2016-06-23 11:12:40 UTC
Demica Diaz wrote:
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
After having my tiny sig radius Svipul straight up alpha'd off the field by a carrier the other day: GOOD. The damn things are way too overpowered.

10km/s fighters? idiotically high alpha strike? next to impossible to jam?

whatever happened to 'big weapons do less damage to small targets' thing?


Flying Svipul, calling others overpowered. Lol

J/K Bear


i was more than perfectly aware of the sheer absurdity of this statement when i made it.

well done to all those that picked up on it.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#19 - 2016-06-23 12:45:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Pix Severus wrote:
No one likes to see their favourite toy get nerfed, but you knew this was coming.


Aaaaah, ain't that sweet, look at brother Pix believing that people can understand that their unbalanced as hell thing is going to get nerfed. That is so precious! Blink j/k bro.

I love that Carriers became the scourge of these 'kitey bullshit' roaming gangs who like to prop up their egos by killing stuff while simultaneously running for their lives lol. They aren't the only options (i personally LOVE my anti-kitey bullshit RHML Typhoon) but they were good. But even I could see that it was too much and could see the nerf coming.

The real outcry is going to be from those guys who have so quickly gotten used to butchering Anomalies with carriers and super carriers for crazy isk ticks. Because they don't read forums, most of them don't know this nerf is coming (I always knew, which is why I just kept ratting with my Machariel), and I'm calling it right now, the day of and the day after the nerf this forum is going to exploded with enraged carrier ratters and level 5 mission runners who got taken by surprise.
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ISD Alliance
#20 - 2016-06-23 14:10:31 UTC
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