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Rana Rama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#161 - 2016-06-19 10:00:36 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I realize that CCP aims to nerf highsec freighter ganking, but do they intend to end it all-together?

When the nerf to Awoxing was on the horizon, a desperate plea was made by the players and CCP had the good judgement to implement the toggle-switch, thus saving awoxing from total death.

Now, a nerf to freighter suicide ganking comes in the form of a 3-minute warp timer, and we need to try and reason with CCP to allow us more than just 3 measly minutes.

Just making it 5 minutes would make a world of difference.

I implore you, noble Devs, reconsider the practicality of recently proposed mechanics changes to bumping/warping.

Thank you.


when you need more than 3 minutes to gank a freighter you're in the wrong business anyway, so why are you whining about it ?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#162 - 2016-06-19 19:45:22 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Now that I've completely schooled Herzog in front of everyone, so much so that he abandoned his fallacious, blatantly false claims in favor of ad-hominim style attacks against me, I claim this as YET ANOTHER victory for the New Order, and take my leave with 1000 likes.

*Drops microphone*



I was out all night. Why are you making a parody of yourself?



Well everyone is still waiting for you to back up that big steaming pile of BS you plopped all over the thread.

Have you filed that petition?

Why are you afraid to just file a petition and ask a GM?

You clearly need help understanding this game but refuse to ask the people who are the authority on these matters. Being Ignorant is excusable, but refusing to educate yourself is known as stupidity.




Showing so much salt while making demands to support your own strawmen. I could bother with giving you more attention but im using a phone right now as my computer is a bit far away. I just came in to check on your hyper defensive meltdown for my own pleasure before i continue an adventurous and productive weekend.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#163 - 2016-06-19 20:24:56 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Now that I've completely schooled Herzog in front of everyone, so much so that he abandoned his fallacious, blatantly false claims in favor of ad-hominim style attacks against me, I claim this as YET ANOTHER victory for the New Order, and take my leave with 1000 likes.

*Drops microphone*



I was out all night. Why are you making a parody of yourself?



Well everyone is still waiting for you to back up that big steaming pile of BS you plopped all over the thread.

Have you filed that petition?

Why are you afraid to just file a petition and ask a GM?

You clearly need help understanding this game but refuse to ask the people who are the authority on these matters. Being Ignorant is excusable, but refusing to educate yourself is known as stupidity.




Showing so much salt while making demands to support your own strawmen. I could bother with giving you more attention but im using a phone right now as my computer is a bit far away. I just came in to check on your hyper defensive meltdown for my own pleasure before i continue an adventurous and productive weekend.

the simple fact that you post here is a victory for Galaxy Pig
GG G.P., you won again by harvesting the tears of the
Quote:
plebs that give no damns
Lol

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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CCL Loyalist
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#164 - 2016-06-20 13:07:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
You're right, I do get a little defensive when people blatantly and publically lie about the rules of the game.

I mean, think of the poor noobies who might believe your tripe.


Also, strawman? Is it not your position that ganking for the sake of ganking would be against the rules?
Try saying that out loud, you might hear how ridiculous that sounds if you say it out loud.

Part of me is wondering if you're going to try to backpedal your way out of this.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#165 - 2016-06-20 16:06:11 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
You're right, I do get a little defensive when people blatantly and publically lie about the rules of the game.

I mean, think of the poor noobies who might believe your tripe.


Also, strawman? Is it not your position that ganking for the sake of ganking would be against the rules?
Try saying that out loud, you might hear how ridiculous that sounds if you say it out loud.

Part of me is wondering if you're going to try to backpedal your way out of this.




My God, you're still here. Just admit CODE is one big whine over crimewatch and loot abandonment and I won't haunt you with truth any further. That's all.

Don't forget it was you who came in here whining about three minutes. Tell me, what's do big about those 2 minutes? You have not made a real case for that extra 2 minutes.

I know what it is. See sentence 1.

Is it that you fear you might gank a freighter and right then another comes along but you got global for 15 minutes and won't be able to (no consequence scram via bumping) hold it in place until the timer is up? As if another one won't come along at all after that? Or you know that freighter pilots will take that opportunity perhaps? Fatter loot might get away because your target selection was poor?


Deal with it™



Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#166 - 2016-06-20 16:33:07 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

My God, you're still here

Herzie, drop the ball... let the adults talk Blink

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#167 - 2016-06-20 18:58:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
You're right, I do get a little defensive when people blatantly and publically lie about the rules of the game.

I mean, think of the poor noobies who might believe your tripe.


Also, strawman? Is it not your position that ganking for the sake of ganking would be against the rules?
Try saying that out loud, you might hear how ridiculous that sounds if you say it out loud.

Part of me is wondering if you're going to try to backpedal your way out of this.




My God, you're still here. Just admit CODE is one big whine over crimewatch and loot abandonment and I won't haunt you with truth any further. That's all.








http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/10/how-will-crimewatch-and-bounty-changes.html?m=1.

Above is James 315's analysis of the then yet to happen crimewatch changes and how they might affect the operations of the New Order. As you can see, the blog was already up and running well before Crimewatch was even announced, and mind you that James 315 and the New Order predate even the blog.

So here's my question: How can the New Order have been created in response to something that hadn't happened yet?

Are you saying that James 315 can see the future?


Your propaganda skills are weak, bro. Google the words "minerbumping" and "crimewatch" and the top result proves your tinfoil incorrect.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#168 - 2016-06-20 19:22:33 UTC
why dont you just adapt.....htfu Big smile

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#169 - 2016-06-20 19:39:31 UTC
I find Galaxy Pig's denials about James315's reaction to the then new crimewatch very telling, I will give him the same reply I did to Iamwreckingyou, or something like that.

Crimewatch went through an extended period of discussions and debate before it was implemented, members of the CSM knew about the changes well before they were implemented and I am pretty certain there was a discussion at Fanfest. To pretend that this was not known about when CODE was formed is total mis-information by a player trying to hide the fact that CODE was built on a butthurt reaction to game changes. Just as the player concerned posted this thread as a butthurt reaction to the change in bumping mechanics which is no longer a totally consequence free act of warp disruption and means he will have to have friends or another account for suicide alts.

As people have said, you Galaxy Pig need to HTFU!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#170 - 2016-06-20 19:55:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Denial of James 315's reaction? I provided a link to James 315's reaction...

Are you actually reading my posts?


Let's dig deeper, shall we? How did crimewatch in any way affect the operations of the New Order? Sure, it gave carebears a few more mechanisms to strike back at us, but we all knew they'd be too cowardly to actually use any of them. All it did was provide us with even more tools to stick it to carebears. e.g. killrights

There were plenty of other changes that actually did affect us. These would have been better choices for your tinfoil theories.

Learn to propagandize.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#171 - 2016-06-20 20:13:46 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Denial of James 315's reaction? I provided a link to James 315's reaction...

Are you actually reading my posts?


Seeing as you asked I will now explain why I no longer go to your alliance website, the last time I went on that website was 16th June, which was a link left in local alongside the kill mail of a freighter they had killed just before I had arrived, the link was to a to a comment by Lawrence Lawton a member of CODE, it was a couple of posts under CODE's previous leaders rant about a tragic event, and in my opinion this was done deliberately by that player. I decided at that point to no longer look at your website. Perhaps if you clean it up so people like Lawrend Lawton can no longer play such games then players like me will go back to that site.

You asked the question on this and I gave you my reasons for refusing to vist that site following a CODE players stupid game. I do not wish to expose myself to such stupidity and contempt and I remind you that it is a shame that people like the player I mentioned bring it down to such a level. Can you tell him that I have utter contempt for him as a person for doing that.

If you personally guarantee to me that I will not be subject to viewing such posts then I may reconsider.



When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#172 - 2016-06-20 20:20:39 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Denial of James 315's reaction? I provided a link to James 315's reaction...

Are you actually reading my posts?


Seeing as you asked I will now explain why I no longer go to your alliance website, the last time I went on that website was 16th June, which was a link left in local alongside the kill mail of a freighter they had killed just before I had arrived, the link was to a to a comment by Lawrence Lawton a member of CODE, it was a couple of posts under CODE's previous leaders rant about a tragic event, and in my opinion this was done deliberately by that player. I decided at that point to no longer look at your website. Perhaps if you clean it up so people like Lawrend Lawton can no longer play such games then players like me will go back to that site.

You asked the question on this and I gave you my reasons for refusing to vist that site following a CODE players stupid game. I do not wish to expose myself to such stupidity and contempt and I remind you that it is a shame that people like the player I mentioned bring it down to such a level. Can you tell him that I have utter contempt for him as a person for doing that.

If you personally guarantee to me that I will not be subject to viewing such posts then I may reconsider.





So that's a 'no', then?

Pfff lol you take the internet too seriously, brother.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#173 - 2016-06-20 20:21:32 UTC
think code. need permits for posting on the forums Cool

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#174 - 2016-06-20 20:26:48 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Denial of James 315's reaction? I provided a link to James 315's reaction...

Are you actually reading my posts?


Let's dig deeper, shall we? How did crimewatch in any way affect the operations of the New Order? Sure, it gave carebears a few more mechanisms to strike back at us, but we all knew they'd be too cowardly to actually use any of them. All it did was provide us with even more tools to stick it to carebears. e.g. killrights

There were plenty of other changes that actually did affect us. These would have been better choices for your tinfoil theories.

Learn to propagandize.


The new crimewatch enabled the AG players to act as they do now, no one would have dared do anything in the previous mess because it was spaghetti code of the worst order sometimes making you go suspect for no known reason. At least now we have a certain level of control. This has created dynamic content over ganks and any true player would welcome it. Killrights work both ways, no issues with them at all apart from the way they are used to scam people.

If you have issues with the new system then feel free to detail them rather than a throw away line with no detail.

The reaction to the loss of can flipping by baltec1 has been noted by me. Lucas Kell as a member of Miniluv would not just come out with that about James315's reaction, Lucas Kell has a proven track record of saying it as he sees it, which almost got him kicked out of the Imperium. I trust his words because I have seen him over an extended period tell it as it is and see no reason to doubt it. You on the other hand are twisting Herzog's words to say something he never said and then accuse him of saying it.

Propoganda is not what I am interested in.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#175 - 2016-06-20 20:32:58 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
think code. need permits for posting on the forums Cool



Happy to sell them one, a bargain at 100m for a single day


Cheap at the price

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#176 - 2016-06-20 20:38:51 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
think code. need permits for posting on the forums Cool



Happy to sell them one, a bargain at 100m for a single day


Cheap at the price


i was thinking per post, monitor it for tears before allowing them to post

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#177 - 2016-06-20 20:43:46 UTC
And highsec players actually getting out and fighting each other is contrary to the Code?

Oh, it's one of the stated goals of our organization? Shrug, the Code always wins! Aways!

We did welcome crimewatch, which is explained in that link I posted which you refuse to click on.

You're right, the crimewatch changes cut both ways, giving both sides more tools to get at the other, though only one side would actually have the cajones to use them...

Herzog was trying to claim that the shooting of spaceships requires some sort of justification and that is just plain wrong. Is this really under dispute?

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#178 - 2016-06-20 21:12:23 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
think code. need permits for posting on the forums Cool



Happy to sell them one, a bargain at 100m for a single day


Cheap at the price


i was thinking per post, monitor it for tears before allowing them to post



That's a much better idea

Tea. Earl Grey. Hot


Make it so!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#179 - 2016-06-20 21:43:03 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
You're right, I do get a little defensive when people blatantly and publically lie about the rules of the game.

I mean, think of the poor noobies who might believe your tripe.


Also, strawman? Is it not your position that ganking for the sake of ganking would be against the rules?
Try saying that out loud, you might hear how ridiculous that sounds if you say it out loud.

Part of me is wondering if you're going to try to backpedal your way out of this.




My God, you're still here. Just admit CODE is one big whine over crimewatch and loot abandonment and I won't haunt you with truth any further. That's all.








http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/10/how-will-crimewatch-and-bounty-changes.html?m=1.

Above is James 315's analysis of the then yet to happen crimewatch changes and how they might affect the operations of the New Order. As you can see, the blog was already up and running well before Crimewatch was even announced, and mind you that James 315 and the New Order predate even the blog.

So here's my question: How can the New Order have been created in response to something that hadn't happened yet?

Are you saying that James 315 can see the future?


Your propaganda skills are weak, bro. Google the words "minerbumping" and "crimewatch" and the top result proves your tinfoil incorrect.



Propaganda? Truth is not propaganda. It's a force of nature. Speaking of propaganda, what website.... ah one controlled by the same people who are known to lie and gaslight the rest of the playerbase.

BTW, anybody can look at a future change and be butthurt about it, which is what this "prediction of the future" really it. You know how I know that happens?

Look at the first post in this thread.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#180 - 2016-06-20 22:13:19 UTC
Aye.

The code always whines.