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why do we even have probes they are a joke

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VARANUS65
Emperiume Hords of DarkLight
#1 - 2016-06-18 03:54:30 UTC
no wounder some one can probe down a ship in 40second s it not probing it takes no skill to use. all i can do is guess alot of people cryed about how hard it was to line up a target with probes. but i have to say ccp if you want probes let go back to the old ways or get rid of them all together and just mark a icon on the map to identy each type of ship on the map because that what probing is now. now we have citadales which dont show on rader but who cares one spread of probes and identify the cit move probe to red dot scan again and boom there it is now why are cit not on overview with probe it works just like if you had to refresh your over view it is a joke .
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-06-18 04:33:31 UTC
My english language please stop molesting it.

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Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#3 - 2016-06-18 05:11:27 UTC
There wasn't more skill in the old system, just a larger number of repetitive actions.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#4 - 2016-06-18 05:39:10 UTC
1) Try adding citadels to your overview.
2) Some people are really good at probing.
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#5 - 2016-06-18 08:20:55 UTC
VARANUS65 wrote:
boom there it is


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Riven Varlass
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-06-18 09:03:02 UTC
I was probing a Loki the other day with maxed scanning skills in my Buzzard, could not go beyond 80%~ hitt :( Damn you unprobable Loki

x2 Gravity rigs, x4 T2 Scan enhancing mid slots.
Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#7 - 2016-06-18 09:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sitting Bull Lakota
*cracks knuckles*
VARANUS65 wrote:
No wounder someone can probe down a ship in 40 seconds. (What do you mean by this?) It is not probing; it takes no skill to use. All I can do is guess a lot of people cried about how hard it was to line up a target with probes. <but* I have to say,CCP**, if you want probes, then let us go back to the old ways.That or get rid of them all together and just mark an icon on the map to identify each type of ship on the map****.because That is what probing is now.>*** <***Now***** we have citadels which don't show on radar******, but who cares? One spread of probes andto******* identify the citadel, move probes to the red dot, scan again, and boom, there it is! Now, why are citadels not on the overview?******** {It works with probes} just like if you had to refresh your overview. It is a joke.>***


*Generally, should avoid beginning sentences with conjunctions.
**Can be left diminutive to show lack of respect, but I doubt this was the intent for... reasons.
***Run-on sentence
****Redundant
*****Technically not incorrect, but beginning a sentence with the word that ended the last is clunky (poetry excepted)
******Dscan? Also, do they not?
*******Use "to" instead of "and" with an infinitive.
********Again, are they not?

I'm not sure I understand your complaint. Is probing too quick and easy currently?
Hawke Frost
#8 - 2016-06-18 13:19:03 UTC
Yes probing is hilariously easy these days, it used to be an art of sorts where one could excel in. Also, it doesn't take 40 seconds to probe someone, it takes far far less.
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#9 - 2016-06-18 13:45:14 UTC
Hawke Frost wrote:
Yes probing is hilariously easy these days, it used to be an art of sorts where one could excel in. Also, it doesn't take 40 seconds to probe someone, it takes far far less.

A. That depends on shiptype
B. As someone who was an acclaimed master of the Apocrypha probing system when it first came out (people would start convo-spamming me whenever they needed a prober) there is NO reduction of skill necessary in the new system.

The only reason it takes less time to probe people is because you're spending less time moving each probe one at a time, which honestly just makes the process less arduous and frustrating.

If it pisses you off that much, fit an ECCM to screw with their probes. It won't stop someone like me with all the skills maxed out, Sisters gear, implants, rigs, and the mid-slot modules, but you'll make it harder for most people.

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Trevize Demerzel
#10 - 2016-06-18 16:03:38 UTC
Hawke Frost wrote:
Yes probing is hilariously easy these days, it used to be an art of sorts where one could excel in. Also, it doesn't take 40 seconds to probe someone, it takes far far less.



Ya for you maybe. I'm legally blind. Probing is difficult to say the least..

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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#11 - 2016-06-18 18:57:59 UTC
If ya can't say whatcha mean, how can ya mean whatcha say?

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-06-18 20:57:09 UTC
MidnightWyvern wrote:
Hawke Frost wrote:
Yes probing is hilariously easy these days, it used to be an art of sorts where one could excel in. Also, it doesn't take 40 seconds to probe someone, it takes far far less.

A. That depends on shiptype
B. As someone who was an acclaimed master of the Apocrypha probing system when it first came out (people would start convo-spamming me whenever they needed a prober) there is NO reduction of skill necessary in the new system.

For someone who's supposedly an acclaimed master of probing and was doing it in Apocrypha, you'd know that the skill requirements for scanning as well as the game mechanics in Exploration have been drastically dumbed down since then.

So yeah, as someone who trained to use the original probing system before Apocrypha, I agree that the current scanning interface system is way too easy, it's no longer exploration, it's now instant gratification.



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May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#13 - 2016-06-18 21:13:59 UTC
Core and/or Combat butt stuff, usually with your sisters.
Hawke Frost
#14 - 2016-06-18 23:48:47 UTC
Trevize Demerzel wrote:
Hawke Frost wrote:
Yes probing is hilariously easy these days, it used to be an art of sorts where one could excel in. Also, it doesn't take 40 seconds to probe someone, it takes far far less.



Ya for you maybe. I'm legally blind. Probing is difficult to say the least..



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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#15 - 2016-06-19 12:08:56 UTC
Riven Varlass wrote:
I was probing a Loki the other day with maxed scanning skills in my Buzzard, could not go beyond 80%~ hitt :( Damn you unprobable Loki

x2 Gravity rigs, x4 T2 Scan enhancing mid slots.

There are no longer fits which are unprobable. But there are fits which require a Virtue set to probe.

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Dibz
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-06-19 13:20:57 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
My english language please stop molesting it.


Please do the same.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-06-19 14:16:53 UTC
Dibz wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
My english language please stop molesting it.


Please do the same.


i dont want too do it!

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ISD Alliance
#18 - 2016-06-19 21:00:38 UTC
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