Crime & Punishment

A long time ago it was a little dangerous :P
Now it's numb

If anything I'm crying for less severe nerfs...

What buffs have I requested?

CODE has been nothing more than one big whine.

TEARS was all about singling out a miner or mission runner and aggressing that one person and then either killing their ship alone or bringing in RR too. It all depended on the situation. Then of course the "blame the victim" routine.

CCP approached that problem with a player solution. Crimewatch and loot abandonment. You see a lot of mission runners decided that they didn't need the loot anyway so they ignored the ninjas or took to shooting the wrecks.

Funny thing was, if you didn't bother with the ninja, that was tears because the nefarious nabobs would just as well assume it "Oh look they sooooo buttmad they didn't do anything I'm so leet!" or if they shot the wrecks "Oh look they so buttmad they shot the wrecks and lost ISK from modules and salvage I'm so leet!".

I read their posts and blogs. They were like that creepy cousin that would think every girl at the party wanted him, regardless of the interactions.

But ignoring them was not enough. I have seen the tactics. Get aggressed, line up with a target. CCP fixed that too with NPC AI improvements.

But the biggest insult was probably loot abandonment - a final proof that yes indeed the mission runner never wanted that loot anyway and all those tears of the past were null and void. Crimewatch was also painful for them: it meant that other PVPers could attack them. That was the last thing they wanted. It was all about using a PVP fit against a mission fit and still calling it PVP. It was also all about the joys of gaslighting and blaming the victims in forums and in local. Acting all coy about it, seeing what buttons they can push further and further and further. Meta jollies.

And they call these "nerfs" too.

The butthurt brigades would turn to suicide ganking. GMs said "Find a way to make this role-playing or game related or else" so they had to come up with mining permits. This has been admitted to numerous times.

But long before CODE. even old school suicide gankers (people have been doing it since 2003 BTW) said it was rather odd that you can get an insurance payout for a criminal act.

It was also rather odd that an industrial ship was made of paper. If you put 7 friends in a car armed with small rifles and attempted to take out a really huge truck you might damage it but you won't destroy it.
The same was said about wreck HP and nobody cried. I would say the TEARS guys have been crying since the start of CODE. as CODE. is a monument towards it.

And CODE. does not always win. Things are not going well for CODE as we can see here, here, and here. and they even have to change how they do things "because of us" - do we get to say "ooooh they must be buttmad having to play the game differently!! I'm so leet! Notice me Senpai!!!"


I'm curious. As CODE. find themselves not the only "PVPers" in highsec and AG learns to gank and bump, what will the next endeavor be? Where will they all go next? I assumed they would resort to highsec deccing but there are already merc players, apt to deal with targets that do fight back, already scratching and clawing for that content, with the CEOs constantly under the challenge of "keeping the members interested", a situation made worse by removal of watch lists.


But... but.... miner bumping is not ganking! And was bumping freighters. And has been said before: bumping a freighter may or may not be involved with ganking it, but freighters have been bumped for over an hour at times. And it was possible to bump a freighter all day without consequences. That was bad mechanic. Just like all wrecks having 500 HP (something I was taking advantage of and getting some very salty CODE. tears from BTW), just like insurance payouts for criminal acts.

Maybe Emperium is hiring.

I expected you to go full creepy cousin.

"The butthurt brigades would turn to suicide ganking. GMs said "Find a way to make this role-playing or game related or else" so they had to come up with mining permits. This has been admitted to numerous times. ".

This is soooooo false! Why do people still think this crap?

You do not need any kind of reason or justification to shoot another person's spaceship in this spaceship-shooting game. Why can't people get this through their skulls?!

Ask a GM, please!

A suicide gank does not needs to be profitable in any way, and it most certainly doesn't have to be "role-playing or game related" (whatever that means).

I hear this all the time from the carebears I kill: "all this New Order stuff is just an excuse to gank people!!1"

Trust me folks, we don't need an excuse to kill your retriever, we have plenty of good reasons to kill retrievers, but we don't need a single one of them.

If you wanna kill a retriever for lols or because you're in a bad mood today and a pretty explosion would cheer you up, go for it!

I say again: It is not against the rules to blow up spaceships in this spaceship blowing-up game.


Herzog, one would think that as much as you like to post about EVE on forums, that you'd actually take the time to learn what you're talking about. Please educate yourself about the rules of EVE Online and stop misinforming people, thank you.

The reason capitals are not allowed in highsec has nothing to do with EHP vs concord. You could totally highsec gank capitals. You'd just need something bigger than a gang of cheap fit catalysts.


Captials are not allowed in highsec because CCP doesn't want highsec to become a giant staging ground for nullsec alliances, which is what would happen if capitals where allowed in highsec.

The one you are desperately projecting on people you hate for no reason.

Whatever happened to you IRL, I'm glad it didn't happen to me.

No, he agreed that to make sure that your ganking and bumping and tear gathering could not be defined as simple griefing and petitioned by your victims. I have no attitude whether it be right or wrong, it just is and I fight it in game which for me is fun.

Aren't chatlogs forbidden unless they're in the Pirate Story thread? With names omitted?



Read the rules lmao

So you're officially copping-out of the argument now because I've cornered you?

No attempt to justify your nonsense?



Please stop making things up and splerging them all over EVE -O, there are literally dozens of people on this forum you could be misinforming.