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An end to Incursions

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Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#1 - 2016-06-15 15:36:14 UTC
For years incursions by the Sansha's Nation have spread unopposed. When they first appeared, capsuleers took up arms with support from CONCORD to fight back Sansha Kuvakei's armies, but corruption spread throughout the capsuleer forces. These corrupt capsuleers banded together under names such as “The Valhalla Project”, “The Ditanian Fleet”, “Warp To Me Incursion” and many more.

Today these sick individuals only put up a show for CONCORD and turn a blind eye to the millions of innocent lives lost to the invasion, all in the name of ISK. The corrupt capsuleers prolong these phony for-profit wars and won't attack in full force until Sansha Kuvakei’s armies have achieved their purpose and are withdrawing, at which point they attack the mothership, destroying what's left of the retreating forces only as it is required by CONCORD for payment.

Samantha Myth will cleanse this corruption from our society and guide us into a bright new era of peace and prosperity where there will be no Sansha’s Nation to abduct our people! With our combined might, we will destroy every mothership and end every incursion until all corners of New Eden are liberated from the Sansha menace.

However, to complete this, we need your help! Thanks to the corrupt capsuleers' inaction, Sansha Kuvakei has accumulated enormous forces of once innocent civilians, now brainwashed soldiers, waiting to do his bidding. New incursions emerge weekly and we need your help to defeat them all and put a stop to Sansha Kuvakei’s plans. Fleets will be organized around an armor tanking doctrine. Armor logistics and battleships are vital to our plans. On top of this, you are encouraged to form your own fleets and take these pressing matters into your own hands.

Spread the word, join our in game channel MOM POP to stand up against the armies of Sansha, and corrupt capsuleers struggling to keep the status quo.

Our first fleet assembles June 18th YC118 at 14:00.
R 2 D-2
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#2 - 2016-06-15 15:45:47 UTC
+1
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#3 - 2016-06-15 16:36:05 UTC
Moved to Crime and Punishment.

ISD Max Trix

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#4 - 2016-06-15 22:03:08 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Moved to Crime and Punishment.

Whoa dude this isn't your personal cesspool to dump unwanted threads you want trolled

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#5 - 2016-06-15 22:20:59 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Moved to Crime and Punishment.

Whoa dude this isn't your personal cesspool to dump unwanted threads you want trolled

I was wondering that myself, why here?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#6 - 2016-06-15 22:27:41 UTC
Lord Razpataz wrote:

I was wondering that myself, why here?

Probably because he's calling for the punishment of groups of players?
He's not doing it as a single corp so it doesn't belong in COAD which is the other maybe place it could go.
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#7 - 2016-06-15 22:32:39 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Lord Razpataz wrote:

I was wondering that myself, why here?

Probably because he's calling for the punishment of groups of players?
He's not doing it as a single corp so it doesn't belong in COAD which is the other maybe place it could go.

To me it looks like a roleplaying rant..
Raiz Nhell
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-06-15 23:10:29 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Moved to Crime and Punishment.

Whoa dude this isn't your personal cesspool to dump unwanted threads you want trolled



Isn't it yourself and Bumble's personal cesspool?

I like the swim up bar, and the water is fine once your in P

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2016-06-15 23:47:52 UTC
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Lord Razpataz wrote:

I was wondering that myself, why here?

Probably because he's calling for the punishment of groups of players?
He's not doing it as a single corp so it doesn't belong in COAD which is the other maybe place it could go.

To me it looks like a roleplaying rant..

More like a self cyber session.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-06-16 01:37:44 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Moved to Crime and Punishment.

At first I was like Straight

But then I was like Straight
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-06-16 03:27:30 UTC
Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:
For years incursions by the Sansha's Nation have spread unopposed. When they first appeared, capsuleers took up arms with support from CONCORD to fight back Sansha Kuvakei's armies, but corruption spread throughout the capsuleer forces. These corrupt capsuleers banded together under names such as “The Valhalla Project”, “The Ditanian Fleet”, “Warp To Me Incursion” and many more.

Today these sick individuals only put up a show for CONCORD and turn a blind eye to the millions of innocent lives lost to the invasion, all in the name of ISK. The corrupt capsuleers prolong these phony for-profit wars and won't attack in full force until Sansha Kuvakei’s armies have achieved their purpose and are withdrawing, at which point they attack the mothership, destroying what's left of the retreating forces only as it is required by CONCORD for payment.

Samantha Myth will cleanse this corruption from our society and guide us into a bright new era of peace and prosperity where there will be no Sansha’s Nation to abduct our people! With our combined might, we will destroy every mothership and end every incursion until all corners of New Eden are liberated from the Sansha menace.

However, to complete this, we need your help! Thanks to the corrupt capsuleers' inaction, Sansha Kuvakei has accumulated enormous forces of once innocent civilians, now brainwashed soldiers, waiting to do his bidding. New incursions emerge weekly and we need your help to defeat them all and put a stop to Sansha Kuvakei’s plans. Fleets will be organized around an armor tanking doctrine. Armor logistics and battleships are vital to our plans. On top of this, you are encouraged to form your own fleets and take these pressing matters into your own hands.

Spread the word, join our in game channel MOM POP to stand up against the armies of Sansha, and corrupt capsuleers struggling to keep the status quo.

Our first fleet assembles June 18th YC118 at 14:00.


I thought sheilds were better.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#12 - 2016-06-16 04:04:45 UTC
I suppose that's one way to mess with the farmers.

A signature :o
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-06-16 04:17:33 UTC
Is the thread already derailed with the move or not I can't tell.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#14 - 2016-06-16 06:00:48 UTC
Don't think of this as your typical ISD threadcrapping.

Think of this as you very own chance to engage in some passive AWOXING.

Get those logibro alts out and see how many times you can...heheheh....'accidentally' cause a fleet wipe......

Then swoop in and grab the wrecks, The delicious, blingy wrecks........

Them incursion bears simply drip with da bling, or so I hear.....

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-06-16 09:30:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Yun Kuai
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Don't think of this as your typical ISD threadcrapping.

Think of this as you very own chance to engage in some passive AWOXING.

Get those logibro alts out and see how many times you can...heheheh....'accidentally' cause a fleet wipe......

Then swoop in and grab the wrecks, The delicious, blingy wrecks........

Them incursion bears simply drip with da bling, or so I hear.....

Bear


Too bad they implemented "safeties" specifically to protect incursion runners. The suicide blackbird fleets were awesome. Although a thought just hit me....Command Destroyers should be able to jump the logi balls far, far away and you can't warp back to the main fleet once inside the siteIdeaIdeaIdea and given how minimum tanked the DPS ships are it shouldn't take more than a few seconds for the fleet to lose a few shipsPirate

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#16 - 2016-06-16 15:39:31 UTC
Yun Kuai wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Don't think of this as your typical ISD threadcrapping.

Think of this as you very own chance to engage in some passive AWOXING.

Get those logibro alts out and see how many times you can...heheheh....'accidentally' cause a fleet wipe......

Then swoop in and grab the wrecks, The delicious, blingy wrecks........

Them incursion bears simply drip with da bling, or so I hear.....

Bear


Too bad they implemented "safeties" specifically to protect incursion runners. The suicide blackbird fleets were awesome. Although a thought just hit me....Command Destroyers should be able to jump the logi balls far, far away and you can't warp back to the main fleet once inside the siteIdeaIdeaIdea and given how minimum tanked the DPS ships are it shouldn't take more than a few seconds for the fleet to lose a few shipsPirate

Can't mjd in high sec Cry

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Raiz Nhell
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-06-16 23:04:48 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Yun Kuai wrote:
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Don't think of this as your typical ISD threadcrapping.

Think of this as you very own chance to engage in some passive AWOXING.

Get those logibro alts out and see how many times you can...heheheh....'accidentally' cause a fleet wipe......

Then swoop in and grab the wrecks, The delicious, blingy wrecks........

Them incursion bears simply drip with da bling, or so I hear.....

Bear


Too bad they implemented "safeties" specifically to protect incursion runners. The suicide blackbird fleets were awesome. Although a thought just hit me....Command Destroyers should be able to jump the logi balls far, far away and you can't warp back to the main fleet once inside the siteIdeaIdeaIdea and given how minimum tanked the DPS ships are it shouldn't take more than a few seconds for the fleet to lose a few shipsPirate

Can't mjd in high sec Cry



Way to destroy a good idea in a single sentence...

Sad

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2016-06-16 23:18:10 UTC
Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:
For years incursions by the Sansha's Nation have spread unopposed. When they first appeared, capsuleers took up arms with support from CONCORD to fight back Sansha Kuvakei's armies, but corruption spread throughout the capsuleer forces. These corrupt capsuleers banded together under names such as “The Valhalla Project”, “The Ditanian Fleet”, “Warp To Me Incursion” and many more.

Today these sick individuals only put up a show for CONCORD and turn a blind eye to the millions of innocent lives lost to the invasion, all in the name of ISK. The corrupt capsuleers prolong these phony for-profit wars and won't attack in full force until Sansha Kuvakei’s armies have achieved their purpose and are withdrawing, at which point they attack the mothership, destroying what's left of the retreating forces only as it is required by CONCORD for payment.

Samantha Myth will cleanse this corruption from our society and guide us into a bright new era of peace and prosperity where there will be no Sansha’s Nation to abduct our people! With our combined might, we will destroy every mothership and end every incursion until all corners of New Eden are liberated from the Sansha menace.

However, to complete this, we need your help! Thanks to the corrupt capsuleers' inaction, Sansha Kuvakei has accumulated enormous forces of once innocent civilians, now brainwashed soldiers, waiting to do his bidding. New incursions emerge weekly and we need your help to defeat them all and put a stop to Sansha Kuvakei’s plans. Fleets will be organized around an armor tanking doctrine. Armor logistics and battleships are vital to our plans. On top of this, you are encouraged to form your own fleets and take these pressing matters into your own hands.

Spread the word, join our in game channel MOM POP to stand up against the armies of Sansha, and corrupt capsuleers struggling to keep the status quo.

Our first fleet assembles June 18th YC118 at 14:00.




So I take it that you find an issue with incursioners letting the mom sit there after appearing and just farm the sites endlessly.

Back in 2012 there was a protest about incursions that some players took into their own hands. They needed to get the attention of the incursion community (it was being somewhat uppity or elitist) and also CCP regarding some balances.

What they did was started popping the Sansha moms the moment they appeared. I was in those fleets.

Now I'm not one for griefing, but if you want to bring grief, you will get that with mom-popping. Seriously. CODE. might think they can push buttons of miners they gank the best for "juicy tears" and salt, but start popping moms and CODE. will look like amateur salt miners compared to the results you will get. I never saw such hatred in text before that. Shocked


Were it up to me™ the leaving of the Sansha mom alone to continue farming the sites would be deemed broken and a needless ISK faucet. I don't answer to the calls of the bored nullbears and their endless complaints of highsec ISK faucet, but it lacks sense that people running incursions can just let the "boss" go and grind for more ISK. I would punish that behavior:

- Once the mom appears the other sites do not respawn.
- If the mom comes and goes without being popped, NOBODY gets the LP from the incursion.
- Failure of the individual player to engage the mom results in a penalty of 50 percent of the awarded LP. Conversely, those who are party to killing the mothership get a bonus LP based on the damage done.


When I was in the mom-popping fleets led by Darius III and his team (Skunkworks I think) the doctrine was "armor tanking with at least 70 percent resists and 100K EHP). That's from memory of course. Lot of rum consumed since.

Be advised that if you manage to get this started, the hate will be real, and there will be a lot of "aggro fu" dirty tricks to give your ships "engagement AIDS" as they called it. Also incursioners of the monocle wearing level have very deep pockets and will hire mercs to dec you and/or if you drop corp, even suicide your logistics. These Sanshs motherships are no joke BTW.

Good luck. You'll need it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#19 - 2016-06-17 03:03:14 UTC
I was seeing this as a purple op. Deep pockets or not, random purple ops are pretty difficult to dec. If all the merc corps are in on it for some fun - who will they hire?

I'm fairly certain the bulk of incursion runners can only pvp via tear volleys and not actual combat w/ real players.

This is pretty funny. Hauling all that bling across HS to get to the next incursion system in time to see the mom pop would make me sleep quite soundly. I would be mightily pleased if the HS mercs wonked the moms and code gutted the bling as it chased a dream that no longer existed.

Doing this continuously would be tedious, but kind of like hulkageddon, just calling for a weekend of MILF ops on random occasions would be totally woots.

Can we call this OPERATION MILF? MILF OPS? something w/ MILF in it. Got MILF?

Let's do this!
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#20 - 2016-06-17 05:41:58 UTC
I endorse this product and/or service.


Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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