EVE General Discussion

I couldn't agree more.



I am probably on of those "hardcore players", but I don't see any reward. I am living in C5 space with most of my characters and there is simply no easy and quick way on doing them. If a bigger number of corp mates now starts to insist on doing them (especially if they can only play during our prime time), dailies might even have a negative impact on the regular corp activities (which do not include PVE more than once every few weeks), turning the desired effect of having more people doing stuff into the opposite direction.

So far, I did the dailies once on the very first day on all four accounts and found them even more annoying than I thought I would.

Well even if these studies shows that dailies can be addictive, you still have to make the choice to do them (Even if it seems, like that choice is the only option, you still choose it). There are plenty of people who are not trying to min/max away the joy of their spare time activity (EVE online), and ignore the dailies.

I don't understand why those who for whatever reason do not ignore the dailies, never feel responsible and accountable for themselves and the consequences of their actions. If you do something you do not like to do, you will hate it and it is your fault not CCPs. People should stop projecting the responsibility unto CCP

There are people able to not go total OCD with these rewards, meaning that if someone feel they have to do the dailies it is only by their own choice (regardsless how mandatory THEY feel it is).

I am tired of people claiming they have no responsibility for how they feel about the game after doing the dailies they choose to do. They then demand changes because they choose to play the game in a way that kills their joy. All of this just for the stupid reason, they feel they have to... the key word here is feel (devoid of rationale). If they hate it, they can stop doing it or live silently with the consequences that come with min/maxing for the sake of it even if you don't enjoy it.

I am fine with the dailies as they in my opinion do not decrease the sandbox, you can still do everything you could before. Now you even have one extra option (For some the only option, for others not).

I also like about the dailies that if someone really want to get in a certain ship faster you can do it now, by performing a mundane task to get there faster. I was never a fan of the long waiting for skills as fights for example are mainly determined by player skills anyway, and the training times for most other activities like trading and PI are trivial anyway). I do hope though they expand to other activites, so the min/max'ers do not feel it as such a big burden, and stop complaining.

Uh, okay. You made a statement there but neglected to tell me how I'm putting it in a box. Adding a function that is common from other MMO's doesn't put anything in a box or change it at all. It's additive. You don't have to do them if you don't want to. I'm saying the game is still open and expanding, the sandbox is larger and more versatile.

I'm objecting to the idea that EVE has to be whatever it was and can never change or adapt to add other popular items, that is a 'box' that will end up killing the game.

So, you can claim I'm the one putting things in a 'box' but from my perspective I'm open to keeping EVE expanding in play ideas, not shutting it down to some closed perception of what the game can or should be. So, if I'm putting it in a box, at least it's larger than the one the naysayers are building.

Same. I haven't been using this character to Rat much this last week, using her for other things and it just plain slips my mind to go kill a rat (I'm doing enough rat killin with my other 3 characters anyways lol). It just doesn't bother me when i miss it, because I can't miss something that is optional in the 1st place.

On my other toons i usually forget to check for the free SP anyways, realized yesterday that I had 90k skill points on one. It had been nine days since i though about the free SP is was getting, which shows you how much affect these dailies have on me. ie 'not much'.

I do feel sorry for the people who feel 'cheated' in these situations, but like you say, that's a personal issue, not a 'problem' for everyone. As long as the reward is so minor it can be ignored (like I said, nine days) imo it's all good. Now if they expand dailies too much, then I'll have an issue with it.

Bad and very sought examples:

Anti-tobacco laws are due to the second hand smoke that hurts others (especially featuses of pregnant women). Exemplified by that you are allowed to smoke in your house (unless your landlord has decided that the smoke devalues the appartment over time, and you are not allowed) but not in public (hint hint the public part is to protect others who have not chosen to smoke).

With the alcohol laws it is purely (in most european contries anyway) to protect minors, as it has been proven that alcohol inhibits normal development. Grown ups however are allowed to drink themselves to death, which happens quite often. Just like you can gamble all your money away, without anyone stoppping you. That is because as an adult you are responsible for your own actions.

And you are actually rejecting your own claim, as I can indeed to down to the local shop right now to buy and enjoy alcohol responsible, despite there are people in my country who cannot control it.

I am also a little bit offended by that you draw parallels to legislation about harmfull substances affecting minors, and something as unimportant as 10000 sp pr day pr account in a video game. Why should someone be protected from that? Do you really belive that hyperbole is appropriate? Hint hint: I have never heard about legislation about protecting the people from voluntary bonusses in video games. So why should CCP be hold to higher standards and protect them from themselves over something so tedious?

I think it's sad that people get excited over this feature. What they really want is a sandpark model, and I agree, that would be better for the game.

If you're really on (sic) of those "hardcore players" and live in a C5, and are as old as your forum character, then haven't you figured out that the dailies are mostly for newbeans? For them they represent real progress, and often they can use the points to buy, say, 'motion prediction SP' while on an INT / MEM remap.

You, on the other hand, should pull your finger out of your arse, grab some blue loot, sell it for shitloads of ISK and then buy skill injectors if you are feeling hard done by.

Honestly, a C5 resident whingeing about not having enough goodies. Go and run highsec L1-3 missions (T1 ships only, no cloaky Proteus mate) to earn enough for a battleship to remind yourself what it was like.

The first part of your statement is correct, howver don't count on new recurring opportunities to give you additional SP. They will only let you vary the way to gain them.

I really hope thats true.

I've got an inkling CCP is going to stack them.

Just because you managed to forget about it for 9 days does not mean this SP reward is in any way minor. It is a stupidly major reward, the amount of time it cuts off your training every time you do it is *not* minor or trivial. CCP made it non-trivial quite intentionally to take advantage of people's fear of missing out.