EVE General Discussion

As somebody still using the old launcher, though after a migration of my HDD and as such my EvE-installation to win8.1 I get as much as I will also be unable to login through the old launcher anymore. However the last time I tried downloading the new launcher it started to attempt downloading the whole client again alongside (I stopped at that point).
Was that changed? How will I be able to migrate from the old launcher to JUST the new launcher without having to download the entirety of the game files again (a pain when you're stuck to backwater DSL)? Always had the hope for CCP to include an update call so that the old launcher would update itself into the new one (at the latest point when the new launcher went out of beta (in last December or so?)) but as things read like you're simply gonna cut the wires and be done with it.
Will CCP add an option before 30th June to have just the old launcher update itself into the new one?

CCP, you still haven't answered. What about Steam users?

Personally I doubt ccp will refund a red cent. However, when the game stops running on my hardware I will bail from eve due to lack of support, and I recommend that anyone that is unsupported also bail. Don't pay for what you aren't receiving. It is incumbent upon CCP to provide service to you in exchange for what you pay them. If no service, stop paying. Very simple concept, self correcting system. There is more to life than eve, although few eve players remember this. When the eve servers crash, many people meet their spouses again after being away for months. This lack of support may be a good thing for those affected.

P.S. I am surely NOT going to buy new hardware to play eve of all things. And I refuse to adapt to another user interface when Microsoft PROMISED back in the outset of windows 1.0 I would never need to learn another user interface. I've learned about 5 from Microsoft windows updates since then and I am done. If I am demanded to learn another one I will refuse. I can do without, whether windows 7, eve, internet or whatever, I can see the virtues of being a luddite. The only reason people support upgrading to windows 10 is they haven't upgraded that one too many times yet. You will ALL learn and then come to be disappointed that you didn't listen earlier to the ones that had already reached saturation. Forced upgrades are a grab for isk/money and are not to the consumers benefit, just the provider of said product as an excuse to sell more.

I'm one of the 3.2% and have posted a request for suggestions for a new computer build here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=484184

I'm adding the above link in hopes that traffic from this post might lead to useful suggestions there.

Thanks

Glad to see it go. I have Windows XP at work and our new information software that we recently got could not run on it so they upgraded all of our computers to Windows 7.

We were so happy, we actually threw a party at work to celebrate the demise of Windows XP.

I do feel sorry for those running on Windows XP, but sheesh, please update your OS.

If you are on the internet, security should be your number 1 worry. Hackers etc, literally love anyone running XP. Most botnets are heavily made up of XP users. Chastising CCP for mentioning that has to make you wonder if you spend your life with blinders on.

If you run Eve on an XP computer it is just a matter of time before someone hacks your Eve account. Secondly XP is highly inefficient, your computer will run faster on 7 on up.

Personally, I really like 10, it is far more secure than any of the other windows operating systems and if you are so turned off by privacy issues there are a number of programs out there that turn off most of those issues.

As to privacy, if you are on the internet you really don't have any because such companies like Google and Facebook as examples are much worse for your privacy than Microsoft is in Windows 10.

As it has been mentioned above many times, Linux is an excellent option if you are so concerned over Microsoft issues.

Get your head out of the sand and upgrade.

Correct, so that means if you are really concerned about security you get a second computer that acts as your through-put router where you configure the firewall and antivirus, before you even get to the modem. That way you can run any OS you want on your actual computer and actual OS that you prefer. Which means Windows XP has nothing to do with it. If you are really concerned about security, you never let your computer regardless of OS be directly connected to the modem / router combo.
But the moment you have an external solution running, it means nothing for the actual Windows XP or any other OS security itself as long as you set it up correctly. Hell even routers themselves have a reasonable hardwire firewalls to be configured since a while.
Also, if you don't go to pornographic sites, don't watch streams of illegal videos and TV series, don't torrent cracked programs illegally and whatnot, use adblock, disable flash player allowing websites to save stuff on your harddrive by default and don't click any link under the sun, there is basically not really something that you should be concerned of, as long as you have rudimentary antivirus and anti-spyware programs installed that are freeware.

Ever thought about that some people can't afford that and only play eve via plexing ingame with the little effort it takes? And before you comment, consider you're not to judge anyone for their playstyle or what they should do or what they should not do to "make more money" or something like that. I do know someone who is in exact that situation and in the little free time they have, they enjoy a bit of spaceships. Or rather, at least while they can and while it lasts.

All that aside, I'm still curious if it is possible to run eve online on windows XP bypassing the launcher completely and only using the repair tool, as I previously mentioned. Might as well pull out my old windows XP computer.

One thing I would like to know, more out of interest than anything else, is if EvE's usage metrics are different than those of other MMOs.

EvE is more of a "nerdy" game or so I've heard said. And us nerds care for our computers. Those still running XP as I do, most likely do so for reasons beyond Average Enduser Joe's grasp... We don't just pick some random gear off the shelf, we go for specifics.

Of course I understand CCPs position is this -- I too have spent time making software Win 8.1 compatible yet maintaining XP Embedded backwards compatibility (even win95 for a long time until I was seduced by function calls not available in said APIs; sounds familiar eh?).

I'm just curious if there's a comparison between EvE hardware/OS combinations and, say, league of legends or what have you not?

CCP Spreadsheet Wiz? I know you have the data; care to share?

Edit: sorry, forum derped and only quoted your text and not my reply and just refreshed the page.


I might as well try and see what happens if I copypaste the win7 new client to windows XP but I don't think that will do anything. Even though the client is 32bit, the new launcher is incompatible with XP.
As long as you have the old installation running, you should have access to the repair.exe in order to manually patch without ever booting the launcher, provided you start the game from the exefile in the bin folder.

However, it remains a mystery still if that works on that fateful day.

why are you not upgrading to 10?