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Why is Veld considered the best isk/hr?

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Kettrina Malice
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-06-08 02:46:21 UTC
I figured I would just ask here before I went and did an hours worth of research on price, yield per cycle etc. I am just getting back into the game so I am a little rusty on all of this. But is the reason isk per m/3 because running back to town takes too long? I am mining for 1 1/2 hours and jet canning, and then grabbing my freighter. I am focusing on Omber right now.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#2 - 2016-06-08 03:56:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevyn Auscent
Omber is and has always been the worst.
Right now of Highsec ores Plaig then Kernite are winning.
Bistot is the winning Null ore.

Edit: Just in case someone posts different figures, this was Jita market based on mineral value calculations. Exporting compressed ore, selling raw or other markets may be different order.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ISD Alliance
#3 - 2016-06-08 04:02:12 UTC
You always need trit.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-06-08 04:09:16 UTC
http://ore.cerlestes.de/#site:ore

Just click to order by ISK.

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#5 - 2016-06-08 04:09:35 UTC
So let me get this straight; you mine in highsec and scoop cans in a freighter? Ok? This is an efficient process how..?
Kettrina Malice
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-06-08 04:42:18 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
So let me get this straight; you mine in highsec and scoop cans in a freighter? Ok? This is an efficient process how..?


Because I mine 150k m3 ore, grab my freighter, warp to 0, and then pick up 5 cans, warp back out. It's like a 3 and a half minute process every hour and a half. Ok? So explain to me how that is so inefficient it requires a completely appalled response? So Caleb, what is the correct min/max way?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#7 - 2016-06-08 05:50:43 UTC
Mmm Veldspar.

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Joe Un
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#8 - 2016-06-08 06:02:15 UTC
Please save your life and stop mining
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#9 - 2016-06-08 06:06:57 UTC
Kettrina Malice wrote:

Because I mine 150k m3 ore, grab my freighter, warp to 0, and then pick up 5 cans, warp back out. It's like a 3 and a half minute process every hour and a half. Ok? So explain to me how that is so inefficient it requires a completely appalled response? So Caleb, what is the correct min/max way?

There is this industrial that carries about 60k of ore, for about 2 million isk. Saves your freighter being ganked.
Also one should be using Retrievers with their ore hold of about 30k and warping straight to station, or people can can flip you.
Even when I'm mining if I see someone jetcanning I'll grab my procurer and can flip them.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#10 - 2016-06-08 06:42:33 UTC
Kettrina Malice wrote:
I am focusing on Omber right now.

Surely the market hasn't changed that much?
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#11 - 2016-06-08 06:44:57 UTC
Cause Chribba waved his hand over it.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-06-08 10:18:19 UTC
Kettrina Malice wrote:
I figured I would just ask here before I went and did an hours worth of research on price, yield per cycle etc. I am just getting back into the game so I am a little rusty on all of this. But is the reason isk per m/3 because running back to town takes too long? I am mining for 1 1/2 hours and jet canning, and then grabbing my freighter. I am focusing on Omber right now.


Omber is literally the worst mineral you could be mining. Check the website Shae linked.

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Captain Dingles
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-06-08 11:02:45 UTC
I used to be a miner like you until i took an exploration frigate to the knee.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#14 - 2016-06-08 11:30:13 UTC
I am running a buyback program out in null atm and have an appallingly large surplus of pyerite. When queried as to why this was so, the miners responded, "Because bistot is the best isk per hour".

I make no judgement on the accuracy of this statement because I am a mining virgin.

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Yarosara Ruil
#15 - 2016-06-08 11:43:14 UTC
Zappity wrote:
I am running a buyback program out in null atm and have an appallingly large surplus of pyerite. When queried as to why this was so, the miners responded, "Because bistot is the best isk per hour".

I make no judgement on the accuracy of this statement because I am a mining virgin.


That's mostly because Zydrine and Megacyte are very important and hard to come by in Highsec and Bistot happens to be the ore that includes both.
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#16 - 2016-06-08 14:59:46 UTC
I get the best return out of Pyroxeres chain in HiSec for 'standard' mining. Opportunity mining is Glaze. If you can get a resource site lined up with an in system buy site, it is the fastest ISK gain I've seen in HiSec mining, but it's not always easy to get alignment on those.

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Kettrina Malice
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-06-08 15:03:08 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Kettrina Malice wrote:
I figured I would just ask here before I went and did an hours worth of research on price, yield per cycle etc. I am just getting back into the game so I am a little rusty on all of this. But is the reason isk per m/3 because running back to town takes too long? I am mining for 1 1/2 hours and jet canning, and then grabbing my freighter. I am focusing on Omber right now.


Omber is literally the worst mineral you could be mining. Check the website Shae linked.



Yeah so I set up my reprocessing % (71.4% both) and the 150k m3 I mine, using the tool you pointed me to. This literally makes my point. What I am asking is EVERYONE is so vehement about Feldspar being the best. I am asking you WHY everyone is saying that, the research I do points in the other direction. I mine in a system where I know everyone, and hardly ever get someone coming through the I don't know. Being ganked in the 1 minutes my Freighter would be vulnerable is extremely low. I don't care about Veldspar value being higher because of risk of ganking being put into the equation.

So again, I will restate my original question. Is there something I am not aware of, such that you can mine 300k m3 Veld in the same amount of time you could mine 150k Omber, essentially doubling that 22 mill figure.

Omber
31,829,199
33,420,659
35,012,119
(212.19)


Veldspar
22,277,046
23,390,898
24,504,750
(148.51)
Xargun
X-Industries and Design
#18 - 2016-06-08 16:24:51 UTC
Kettrina Malice wrote:
I figured I would just ask here before I went and did an hours worth of research on price, yield per cycle etc. I am just getting back into the game so I am a little rusty on all of this. But is the reason isk per m/3 because running back to town takes too long? I am mining for 1 1/2 hours and jet canning, and then grabbing my freighter. I am focusing on Omber right now.


I've been gone a few years, but when did they allow freighters to interact with jetcans ?

Xargun
Galaxxis
The Regency
The Monarchy
#19 - 2016-06-08 16:27:44 UTC
A jet can miner!!! Get her!
Lugues Slive
Diamond Light Industries
#20 - 2016-06-08 16:36:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugues Slive
There is something off in your math.

From the link, mineral prices are;

Trit - 6.04
Pyerite - 9.61
Iso - 97.30

Now ignoring refine rate because you state they are the same;

Veld - 42.5 trit/m3 * 6.04 = 250.66 isk/m3
Omber - 13.33 trit * 6.04 + 1.67 pyerite * 9.61 + 1.42 iso * 97.30 = 234.856 isk/m3

Now of course your local market may be different.

Edit...

Considering you are consistently mining omber you are most likely in gallente or minmatar space. Both of these regions also have plag, which is currently the highest value high sec ore.
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