Crime & Punishment

While the overwhelming success of code is in fact evidence of the truly impressive idiocy of the modern miner....it is not really related to this thread - go start your own.

Very simply, what is the benefit of fighting a war dec for the majority of hisec players?

Let me see, well I could have the fun trying to catch that GTFO Svipul camping the pipes, hardly inspiring I must say.

Lets see is there anything that I can annoy them with, well yes there is, but that is not something the average PvE or indy group is aware of or even bothers to look for.

Do they have anything to defend in space, no, a POS they can pull down and if it is a large not a single war dec group will go for it so they can leave that up, just turn it into a ECM monster with high resists and giggle.

The Citadel, ho hum, what is the point of putting up a medium? None, how about a Large, not sure any war dec group in hisec has the ability to take one down, and in case it is not a hisec group that has so far put up a large in hisec.

The benefit of the watch list change is that the majority of war dec players are lazy hub and pipe campers, so now you can just move to an out of the way system and they will not come anywhere near you, after a week and a wasted war dec fee they will end the war dec and you can just go back to what you were doing before. And because there are a number of fools that have no idea you will notice that they get renewal war decs and you do not. In effect you could do this before the watch list changes because almost all war dec groups were carpet decc'ing and pipe and hub humping. The watch list changes just eroded the will power of the few remaining that actually hunted, but this change is fairly recent.

Most notable is if you foolishly decide to fight, form up and have a fight, you will find a mass of bored war dec groups queueing up to dec you, you will get multiple decs by people sitting in pimp fitted ships with a mass of RR who will only fight if they can wipe the floor with you without breaking sweat. They will tell you with glee that they will respect you for throwing your T1 ships at their pimp boots while in fact they are laughing at the easy kills and gullibility of their war targets, in fact the problem here is that people got wise to it...

And of course the blanket war decs, a severe case of over fishing, oh no not another war dec by the same pipe humping people, oh yawn...

And finally the reduction in numbers was especially great in hisec, its the hisec players that have largely left the game, activity in hisec is way down.

If I tell someone Good Fight I generally mean it, I want people to fight back, and I have respect for those who do.

You're throwing some serious undertones that are not there, that most notably out of all of them. Is not true.

I debated long and hard before deciding to post what I did and why, because I knew that all I will get is insults from someone who asked the question and then decided that it was my attitude that was at fault. Quite simply you and people like you are rubbish content that the people in hisec have no interest in, period. If I want to do some PvP I go to Stain and have fun there.

Darcvlad : The Antiganker merc, and all that that implies.

#1 - I'm not even one of the people you are describing at all - I fly 100% solo. No boosts, no reps, no links. So don't give me that bull**** about how the poor noobs who outnumber me 30 to 1 couldn't possibly win so it is OK for them to disband their corp immediately...



#2 - as for your stance on blanket wardec corps....

Ironically all of your kills in stain appear to be Mobile Tractor Units and assorted PvE fit pilots...And you always blob them, you never hunt solo.

So because you farm the same PvE idiots as the blanket wardec corps but you are *too cheap* to pay the war fees, this somehow makes you better? You really are a joke...

BAW is built and designed to be the most unfair ******* you'd ever fight in Highsec. Expecting them to "Be nice" Is not what they do. It's like you are saying a lot of things are hot, and use the sun as an example.

As for Ish-tars they where told something along the lines of, "You don't get contracts if you **** around and lose an entire Geddon fleet to Vindicators for the lols" which is true.

So Merc are overly cautions because the PVE carebares who pay them force them be that way.


Regardless, it doesn't pertain tot he topic already set.

You should see their strategy sessions in the anti-ganking channel where Dravblep and his minion Herzog theorize why no one is coming forward to do something™. Followed by some exchange of horrible advice about how to stop ganks and untested EFT-warrior anti-gank fittings. Only interrupted by some angry shouting if someone expects someone else to be a ganker spay because they said something actually helpful against their horrible strategy.

All while you are blapping miners unchallenged.

It is quite entertaining

Cry me a river, hisec 'merc' tears best tears.

Seriously, hisec wardecs are a mechanism to allow structure bashing in HiSec without CONCORD ruining the party, not the path to Unlimited, Risk Phree, Effortless PeeVeePee. Without a wardec system in place, no hisec POS or POCO could ever be brought down.

Hisec 'merc' corps have turned it into a turkey shoot where the preferred targets are mining barges and haulers. Is it any wonder that those denizens of HiSec are risk averse and don't want to engage? If they weren't so risk averse, they wouldn't be in hisec to start with.

EVE PvP requires some actual *effort* unless you want to pad your killboards with the low hanging fruit of gate and station camping. Dank kills are the results of intel gathering, scouting and logistical finesse in order to force a confrontation on your own preferred terms.

1. Because they have no interest in playing your game having been saturated war dec'd numerous times, are you that blind, it does not matter who you are or what you do, you are just one of many, so you are solo, no OGB, no reps, well they don't know that do they. Also those poor noob indy's that you war dec, have their skills focussed elsewhere, most of them can't fly anything suitable, and those that do PvE have no experience of fighting and no desire to go against people without having learned and many of them don't even want to try.

2. Getting personal, well thats a bit different to attacking people in hisec who are in effect solo beause of the restrictions, in nul sec all their allies can pile in on you, and do, so you tend to kill quick and get out, yes its akin to ganking in some respects. MTU's well they get shot to provoke a fight or when we missed getting on someone. Also some of those fights were against other small gangs. If you want to mis-read a killboard for your own prejudices thats fine by me.


I replied to explain why from my prespective having talked to a lot of people in the AG movement based in hisec, if you want to ignore it and start getting all butthurt at me for pointing it out that is funny, hardly bothers me, but why ask a question when you have already got the answer in your own mind, was it because all you wanted to do was create a circle jerk or people knocking carebears in hisec, which is what you are, you even started on miners, you rebel you, lol.