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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#61 - 2012-01-14 23:39:29 UTC
met worst wrote:

Boo hoo hoo Goon.

rage rage rage. Goon.

assorted jelly


FTFY
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#62 - 2012-01-14 23:41:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
So my asking you what the topic is, what the problem is, and what it is you're proposing has nothing to do with the topic (which is you saying that there is a problem that needs to be solved)? Right.

.......What does this supposed trolling consist of?

…and what (and how) is that, exactly?

.....In other words: fix what?


Behold, the typical Tippia post. Four "almost" sentences--all questions--one fragment, and not a single solid idea or proposition in the context.

Why is that you suppose?

Is there some goal here?

Why is that post like that exactly?

How does this help to solve anything?

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#63 - 2012-01-14 23:42:31 UTC
met worst wrote:
But my OP asks why an out-of-game construct has been manipulated (a fact rather arrogantly put on record) to arrive at an in-game solution.
Manipulated how?
Fix what?
Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#64 - 2012-01-14 23:42:41 UTC
I've already directed the CCP personnel under my purview to not read or reply to this thread, so I'm not sure what the point of it was in the first place.

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#65 - 2012-01-14 23:43:25 UTC
MeestaPenni wrote:


Behold, the typical Tippia post. Four "almost" sentences--all questions--one fragment, and not a single solid idea or proposition in the context.

Why is that you suppose?

Is there some goal here?

Why is that post like that exactly?

How does this help to solve anything?



how do you solve a shitpost?
what makes you think this thread is anything more than a bitter rant?
who died and made you lord referee?
and what did you solve with your post?
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2012-01-14 23:45:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
But my OP asks why an out-of-game construct has been manipulated (a fact rather arrogantly put on record) to arrive at an in-game solution.
Manipulated how?
Fix what?


well manipulated ..
It is common knowledge that powerfull coalitions have their CSMs and advocating for changes to improve their posistion. However it ussually fails after few seasons as the coalition fails and then they find their planning something weak as it provides more ammunition against them ..
:source youtube /empire fall/18 Big smile

Fix .. well. You cant fix people being people.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#67 - 2012-01-14 23:48:06 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
It is common knowledge that powerfull coalitions have their CSMs and advocating for changes to improve their posistion.
Not really. It's a common assertion, but when pushed, no-one has really been able to provide much to support this claim.

Much like how the OP asserts that CCP and the CSM is being manipulated (for some unspecified goal) and can't show how.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2012-01-14 23:49:29 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
It is common knowledge that powerfull coalitions have their CSMs and advocating for changes to improve their posistion.
Not really. It's a common assertion, but when pushed, no-one has really been able to provide much to support this claim.

Much like how the OP asserts that CCP and the CSM is being manipulated (for some unspecified goal) and can't show how.


yes..

hence the source of it..

one of those Adolf rage remakes Big smile
Disdaine
#69 - 2012-01-15 00:00:02 UTC
Everyone knows the CSM with Mittens leading it is a joke.

Here's Mittani after the emergency summit:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2614-Mittani-s-CSM-Twitter-Updates/page5
- "No one in CCP gives a **** about Fearless, it's toilet reading."

- "I'd say we in the CSM are not angry anymore"

- "At the point that I think the game is ****** I'd quit and suggest Goonswarm do the same"

- "Thursday dinner we skip booze and hoover down coffee to prep for more drinking and intelligence gathering and backchanneling. I make a couple of really cool new friends and end up chilling with them until ****, almost 5am"

- "constant barrage of coffee, alcohol, and no sleep"

Of course everyone knows that summits are just a binge drinking junket:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2663-DEVBLOG-accord-reached-at-ccp-s-special-summit&p=141579#post141579
- "I literally vomited on my floor during the middle of the conference"

http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/72
- "At CSM summits, every important discussion is held after work in bars."

- "just the standard CSM dose of 5-8 beers a night, every night, from Tuesday until Saturday."

So back to the summit :
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/100336/page/2
- "I haven't really seen anything that would worry me, from CCP, yet."

- ""In addition to ship spinning when we were at the CSM summit, we did address the lost functionalities such as being able to double click on your ship and have your cargo hold open, clicking and dragging from the ship window to change your ship. We brought all that up and I believe we were quite satisfied with what we were told, but I wasn't paying total attention during that session"

Couple of months later:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-05-eve-csm-chairman-breaks-the-peace
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/news/eve-online-csm-chairman-takes-aim-at-ccp





met worst
Doomheim
#70 - 2012-01-15 00:05:33 UTC
Disdaine wrote:
Everyone knows the CSM with Mittens leading it is a joke.

Here's Mittani after the emergency summit:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2614-Mittani-s-CSM-Twitter-Updates/page5
- "No one in CCP gives a **** about Fearless, it's toilet reading."

- "I'd say we in the CSM are not angry anymore"

- "At the point that I think the game is ****** I'd quit and suggest Goonswarm do the same"

- "Thursday dinner we skip booze and hoover down coffee to prep for more drinking and intelligence gathering and backchanneling. I make a couple of really cool new friends and end up chilling with them until ****, almost 5am"

- "constant barrage of coffee, alcohol, and no sleep"

Of course everyone knows that summits are just a binge drinking junket:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2663-DEVBLOG-accord-reached-at-ccp-s-special-summit&p=141579#post141579
- "I literally vomited on my floor during the middle of the conference"

http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/72
- "At CSM summits, every important discussion is held after work in bars."

- "just the standard CSM dose of 5-8 beers a night, every night, from Tuesday until Saturday."

So back to the summit :
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/100336/page/2
- "I haven't really seen anything that would worry me, from CCP, yet."

- ""In addition to ship spinning when we were at the CSM summit, we did address the lost functionalities such as being able to double click on your ship and have your cargo hold open, clicking and dragging from the ship window to change your ship. We brought all that up and I believe we were quite satisfied with what we were told, but I wasn't paying total attention during that session"

Couple of months later:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-05-eve-csm-chairman-breaks-the-peace
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/news/eve-online-csm-chairman-takes-aim-at-ccp


Dang. You disproved my entire rant. It seems the CSM is either irrelevant, drunk or both.

My bad. Blink
Brock Nelson
#71 - 2012-01-15 00:07:17 UTC
met worst wrote:
It seems the CSM is either irrelevant, drunk or both.


Old news is old

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Xuko Nuki
Heralds of Darkness
White Sky.
#72 - 2012-01-15 00:09:04 UTC
Yeah it is a joke, especially true now but why did people ever think it wasn't a joke?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#73 - 2012-01-15 00:28:11 UTC
met worst wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
met worst wrote:
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
You need to ask? You're an idiot.
So you have no answer?
You are a pointless whiner.

And you Sir, after more of the "I know where the quote button is" and "here's another inane question" are just pointless.

Bite me Tippia.


With all of your pent up hate and intolerance you cannot be a fan of ponies. However I am so I will love and tolerate you while also pointing out you havent said what needs to be fixed.

No hate, lot's of intolerance.

(and c'mon baltec, Tippia is just playing his/her little game so she can quote lyrically for 19 pages. It's got nothing to do with the topic, just her chance to talk **** and then log with her alt and like each of her posts. The more she makes in one topic, the less work it needs. Stop feeding the "I Like Me" machine!)

As for what needs to be fixed.

In English and simple form for you Goon.

1) If Mittens is trolling then he is making a mockery of the CSM and should be thrown out.
2) If he's not trolling then he oughta be thrown the **** out for being so ******* dimwitted.

End o' story.



Excuse me, but the "Like" machine is me. I absolutely adore Tippia's posts. Also: Hello, thread!

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
met worst
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-01-15 00:28:49 UTC
Xuko Nuki wrote:
Yeah it is a joke, especially true now but why did people ever think it wasn't a joke?

Said Shakespeare, 'Jesters do oft prove prophets'
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-01-15 00:30:38 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
A less honest politician would have used another word.

I think this says it all right here. Mittens has been pretty transparent through the entirety of his CSM campaign and for the duration of his office. His platform was clearly stated, and he has not gone back on his word so far as I can see. And as it happens, all of you can see it, too! All of the CEO Updates and various other posts he makes are pretty much instantly mirrored on other EVE Online-related websites, including this forum, so it's pretty easy to keep abreast of what he's been saying and thinking since he took office.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-01-15 00:33:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
met worst wrote:
Andski wrote:
Feel free to interpret it as you wish!

Interpret?

Mittens has used words like "manipulate" as he bounces cap heavy 0.0 tenants out of there homes after "manipulating" the CSM and CCP. What needs to be interpreted?

"For the good of the game".

Bullshit. Never was.


Unseating deeply rooted alliances from their space is bad for the game?

Yes, because Goons are doing it. Everything we do is bad for the game.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-01-15 00:34:16 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
The Mitanni convinced CCP to put in CQ's then rallied the Players against Incarna to stop further development of Stations.

He is using his access at CCP to destroy the part of the game that lets you undock while pushing for POS improvements. The end is 80% of his enemies trapped in their Outposts while him and the Goons take over null.

CQ's are Mitanni sponsored Internment Camps! You all think I am CraZy but I see the truth. I have scratched it all over the Walls so his Goons can not destroy it!

He is watching everything through Cameras in our Eyes that he made us pay for.

EVERYONE IS SHEEPLE!!!1

No one in Goonswarm enjoys the captain's quarters.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-01-15 00:37:31 UTC
met worst wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
met worst wrote:
Lemme see, when did GSF chicken out on the NC and go cry to CCP to get caps nerfed?

'bout then wasn't it?


I knew it, You're a bitter ex NC scrub. I wonder, did you join WN and fail to show up to defend branch again?

Take a breather baltec. Go back a bit. We've had this discussion already.

I want 0.0 "de-blobbed". It's my ONLY motivation. What's happened and is happening is a total and absolute farce and will only make 0.0 worse.

The question NOT being answered is WHY is it happening and HOW has it been allowed to happen.

Blobbing will be an issue so long as two guys shooting at a thing is superior to one guy shooting at a thing. So long as there are structures with millions of effective hit points to chew through in order to conduct Sovereignty warfare, there will be huge blobs of battleships and capital ships deployed to shoot at them. These structure shooting fleets do not often see actual combat, so I do not see where your complaint with regards to blobbing arises. The only way you get a fight of any scale in EVE Online is to engage when the enemy believes himself to be in a superior position, which is not something that a structure shooting blob is equipped to do.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Alara IonStorm
#79 - 2012-01-15 00:43:23 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:

No one in Goonswarm enjoys the captain's quarters.

Less incentive for you to be in them when the Mittani (who's name can be linked to the numbers 666 in some obscure way once I find a math professor to help me figure out how) traps us all in there.

This is proof positive. I am going to go make a poorly put together video of stock footage and scary music to prove how. To drive the point home I will fill it with 1984 and Naz1 references.
Disdaine
#80 - 2012-01-15 00:47:42 UTC
INB4 CSM6 saved eve!

CSM was obviously ignored after the emergency summit or else Mittens wouldn't have felt the need to declare war on CCP months later by posting a few self aggrandizing news articles.

This is obviously what made CCP sit up and take notice, despite the fact they'd just been through the Fearless leak, monoclegate and the aurum threadnaught. Couldn't have had anything to do with unsubs.

INB4 WhiteTree and his magnanimous personal life sacrifices made to attend CCP's version of spring break so the csm could save us all.