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CCP Kill AFKING-Summer Expansion 2012 Campaign
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met worst
Doomheim
#61 - 2012-01-14 23:44:41 UTC
Clementina wrote:
I know how to play this game quite well met worst.

Suppose Alice is in one of your systems AFK in a covert ops frigate, she says in local 'AFK be back later', Then goes to sleep for 8 hours, the goes to work for another 8 hours. During that time a large botting operation doesn't function because they don't know if Alice is AFK or not.

At the same time Bob is in a Tengu with a covert ops reconfiguration. He plays for 4 hours. First he gathers intel on your mining op and then relays that to your enemies who then come disrupt it, then he goes and ganks someone ratting, and after that he jumps to another system and cynos dozens of supercapitals on top of your fleet that was just forming. Tired, he flies to a safespot and logs off.

Alice was AFK for 16 hours
Bob was playing hard for 4 hours.
Who did more damage? When you can answer that, you can see why your whining about AFK cloakers looks so stupid to everyone else.

Then you'd also know that "Alice" can blops you when you THINK she's asleep. You simply don't know. Alice is effective REGARDLESS of her RL state.

Sure, I can counter Alice if/when she tries to attack but this is not the issue. That's the price of ratting/mining in 0.0 with the threat of blops. Goes with the territory.

But there is NO counter to someone sitting in a cloak (AFK or otherwise - a moot point) for days/weeks at a time PURELY for the purpose of system denial.

The threat is one thing, the purpose could be multiple reasons. The counter is nil.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#62 - 2012-01-14 23:45:37 UTC
met worst wrote:

So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker


go AFK too... duh
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#63 - 2012-01-14 23:46:01 UTC
met worst wrote:
So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker Tippia?
You shoot him.
met worst
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-01-14 23:48:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
met worst wrote:

So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker?



I use a raven.

Then he's not cloaked anymore is he and if he's not cloaked he's not afk either. Derp.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#65 - 2012-01-14 23:48:06 UTC
met worst wrote:
Clementina wrote:
I know how to play this game quite well met worst.

Suppose Alice is in one of your systems AFK in a covert ops frigate, she says in local 'AFK be back later', Then goes to sleep for 8 hours, the goes to work for another 8 hours. During that time a large botting operation doesn't function because they don't know if Alice is AFK or not.

At the same time Bob is in a Tengu with a covert ops reconfiguration. He plays for 4 hours. First he gathers intel on your mining op and then relays that to your enemies who then come disrupt it, then he goes and ganks someone ratting, and after that he jumps to another system and cynos dozens of supercapitals on top of your fleet that was just forming. Tired, he flies to a safespot and logs off.

Alice was AFK for 16 hours
Bob was playing hard for 4 hours.
Who did more damage? When you can answer that, you can see why your whining about AFK cloakers looks so stupid to everyone else.

Then you'd also know that "Alice" can blops you when you THINK she's asleep. You simply don't know. Alice is effective REGARDLESS of her RL state.

Sure, I can counter Alice if/when she tries to attack but this is not the issue. That's the price of ratting/mining in 0.0 with the threat of blops. Goes with the territory.

But there is NO counter to someone sitting in a cloak (AFK or otherwise - a moot point) for days/weeks at a time PURELY for the purpose of system denial.

The threat is one thing, the purpose could be multiple reasons. The counter is nil.



Someone who is cloaked cannot attack you either, they have to uncloak to do that. Once they are uncloked you can attack them. Working as intended. Your fear of a presumed attack should always be 100% assumed because you are undocked.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
met worst
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-01-14 23:48:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker Tippia?
You shoot him.

Lolz. Errr.... How?
Momma Lovebone
Doomheim
#67 - 2012-01-14 23:50:40 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Momma Lovebone wrote:
Yeah, I agree local should just be removed in null and delayed in low so a portrait there doesn't scare you.

Or you know...move to WH....It all there in the game if you look :D



Yep, it is all in the game.....including cloakers who appear to be afk for hours/days until you try to do something. Apparently you looked around the game, found something you don't like and refuse to move one system over to check for the "afk" part.

So....since I don't think anyone has asked yet. How bad was the loss when the recon "afker" killed you?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#68 - 2012-01-14 23:51:22 UTC
met worst wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
met worst wrote:

So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker?



I use a raven.

Then he's not cloaked anymore is he and if he's not cloaked he's not afk either. Derp.



Then the raven rats.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#69 - 2012-01-14 23:51:53 UTC
So.... Why don't you guys just train up cloaking skills and beat them at their own game?





☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
met worst
Doomheim
#70 - 2012-01-14 23:52:07 UTC
Morganta wrote:
met worst wrote:

So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker


go AFK too... duh

Give that man a Cupie Doll for his wit.

So the solution to "the problem" IS the problem - agree ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#71 - 2012-01-14 23:53:54 UTC
met worst wrote:
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker Tippia?
You shoot him.

Lolz. Errr.... How?
Ctrl-click. F1.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#72 - 2012-01-14 23:54:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
met worst wrote:
Morganta wrote:
met worst wrote:

So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker


go AFK too... duh

Give that man a Cupie Doll for his wit.

So the solution to "the problem" IS the problem - agree ?




thats the CCP credo and its worked just fine lo these many years


and I'd rather have the cotton candy goat if you don't mind
met worst
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-01-14 23:55:56 UTC
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
So HOW do you counter a AFK cloaker Tippia?
You shoot him.

Lolz. Errr.... How?
Ctrl-click. F1.

+1 for the effort Tip'. Roll
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#74 - 2012-01-14 23:57:13 UTC
met worst wrote:
+1 for the effort Tip'. Roll
Can you figure out why the method works?
met worst
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-01-15 00:01:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
+1 for the effort Tip'. Roll
Can you figure out why the method works?

What?

The effort you took at being a forum smartass or the suggestion that I am supposed to actually understand some supposedly clever post about the supposed non-problem not being a problem because he wasn't a problem in the first place so...........

My my.

-1
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#76 - 2012-01-15 00:01:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
+1 for the effort Tip'. Roll
Can you figure out why the method works?


Ctrl-click. F1. >>Target Cloaked<<.Just Before Lock...

Damn, now i will have to wait 24+ Hours in game, waithing for him to finish his laundry,coffe, work, sleep and get back here, and hope to be awake to get him before he cloaks again..


See what I did there?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#77 - 2012-01-15 00:03:29 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Tippia wrote:
met worst wrote:
+1 for the effort Tip'. Roll
Can you figure out why the method works?


Ctrl-click. F1. >>Target Cloaked<<.Just Before Lock...

Damn, now i will have to wait 24+ Hours in game, waithing for him to finish his laundry,coffe, work, sleep and get back here, and hope to be awake to get him before he cloaks again..


See what I did there?


You didn't go ratting for a start.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#78 - 2012-01-15 00:04:52 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:



See what I did there?


danced like a puppet?
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#79 - 2012-01-15 00:04:56 UTC
whats next? A button you can press which causes all people in station to undock?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#80 - 2012-01-15 00:04:58 UTC
met worst wrote:
What?
Can you figure out why Ctrl-click, F1 works?
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Ctrl-click. F1. >>Target Cloaked<<.Just Before Lock...
…and now he's no longer a problem.
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Damn, now i will have to wait 24+ Hours in game
No. Now you can go about your business, thus negating his attempt at denying you that business. AFK:ness countered; job done.