EVE General Discussion

Just relax, it will hurt initially, but you will get used to it. Maybe even you will feel like there is no way back to what you had earlier.

but pan is back?

the pan is back, i did it two nights ago

You can pan as long as you don't have your ship or other object selected. You have to click out in open space if you are selected on something that you can't pan around. At least that's what I recall I have to do every time it messes me up.

Even if you disable all settings to make the orbit camera "basically the same as the old camera";

- There is input lag on all camera commands.

- Panning up and down takes twice the input as Panning left and right.

- Zoom has 1/3 to 1/4th the number of increments, making it far too fast when zooming in and out as a result of the far few options for the degree of zoom. Also, the increments of zoom are so far apart so its hard to find a desirable level of zoom for kiting.

Adding my voice and hope someone bloody listens and acts on it.

I don't post often. Maybe once or twice in my entire time here, associated with Eve.

The new camera sucks. Absolutely. It's not intuitive. It doesn't centre on the ship. It looks like a feature that was changed fully for the sake of change, maybe to justify someone's job, when no change was needed.

It was standard practice to turn the "new" camera off. Right down to teaching the noobs to turn it off, too. Why?
Because it sucks.

If it isn't broke why break it? Why replace something that WORKS for CRAP?

Same goes for the map.

Please stop changing things because "shiny". Because "justify my job". Because change for the sake of change.

I'm all for keeping the game "competitive" vs other titles. But this change doesn't help achieve this outcome, in fact,
it impedes it.

It kills the immersion factor. Seriously. I'm already juggling window space with a multitude of boxes on screen. We can't all afford multiple big screen monitors. the centre of my screen is PRIME real estate to see WTF is ACTUALLY HAPPENING around me.

How about getting rid of the first-person mode (which is supercilious and no-one in their right mind seriously uses it anyways) and giving us back our working panning centered camera?

I just want to click something on the overview, and have my ships view centered, as the camera swivels to look at at. That, and drag with my mouse for a quick look at other stuff. The tried and true WORKING camera, not this crap you've replaced it with.

I do not want to have 3 useless modes (crap camera, orbit crap camera, and fps crap camera) - that just frustrate the hell out of me. Before it was fine to ignore these buttons as long as I had my choice. But that choice has been stripped from me.

To those that tell me with a smiling face "Oh you'll get used to it :) . It's great. You'll see :) " - Don't tell me I have to get used to it. I don't like it. I hate it. It detracts from my in-game experience. Go get used to cancer.

CCP I forgive you for deleting my Windows boot.ini in your update many years ago. But this I can't.
Please fix it. Or just give me the option of having my working camera back.

Over it.

Ive had nothing but issues with the new camera since a few patches ago. At first it was giving me a gray screen sometimes on undock. Then when i tried to dock to fix it, it would crash the client. i had to repair the client to fix that. Then i get this problem as a replacement.


This camera is way to buggy to be on TQ. It should of went through more testing before it was put on TQ.

Logon to Eve
Look at the big yellow circle at the bottom of your screen
Click the middle of the 3 buttons immediately to the left of it.
Job done.

If you select the top or bottom buttons you will get all the issues you are complaining about.

I ONLY use the middle button and have had problems with it the last two weeks, so thats a fail.

This isnt about getting used to a new tool, its about missing features and ccp's stubbornness.

The new camera has some nice features but we are forced to trade features and thats a bad trade for me.

Re enable the old camera so that we can have a stable tool while you work on integrating ALL the features of the old camera in to the new one.

You have all the feedback you need in the feedback threads, some of them look like they are coming from professional programmers and UI designers.