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The future of solo/small gang pvp
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big miker
Frogleap Factories
Ribbit.
#21 - 2016-06-01 09:03:35 UTC
Correct, I've lost 4 Nags creating this video. Pretty much every fight wasn't cost efficient at all. Not many players are willing to drop a 5.6b isk capital solo or in small gang because they either can't afford to lose them, or care to much about their killboard stats. I'm flying these for fun, and showcasing what ships are capable off in the game. Dreads aren't efficient at all for small gang situations. Carriers on the other hand are completely different since they don't have to siege up to apply just as much dps as a HAW dreadnought.

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#22 - 2016-06-01 09:12:25 UTC
big miker wrote:
Correct, I've lost 4 Nags creating this video. Pretty much every fight wasn't cost efficient at all. Not many players are willing to drop a 5.6b isk capital solo or in small gang because they either can't afford to lose them, or care to much about their killboard stats. I'm flying these for fun, and showcasing what ships are capable off in the game. Dreads aren't efficient at all for small gang situations. Carriers on the other hand are completely different since they don't have to siege up to apply just as much dps as a HAW dreadnought.


dont get me wrong i still take my hat off to you for doing it and your vargur videos inspired me to try out losing shiney stuff just for fun Lol

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Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#23 - 2016-06-01 15:27:03 UTC
Prometheus Exenthal wrote:
T3D and the ******** carriers are what's slowly killing off soloing.
I don't think anyone is concerned about a sudden burst in solo-dread pvp.



T3ds are good, but not good enough to time travel back to 2005, which is when solo PvP died.

It has been 11 years. Let your grief go.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#24 - 2016-06-01 15:56:23 UTC
Guys c'mon...

If a carrier is sitting on a gate, insta-popping whatever warps in, and you drop in with your PvP Destroyer only to find yourself back in your clone bed, get your buddies together and go carrier killing. You know where the darned thing is, what it's doing and HOW to kill it. They are not the boogey man they are being made out to be. As with all carriers they are dead meat without their fighters.

You might lose 1bil ISK in ships doing it but that's a 3+bil ISK ship that just got turned into space scrap.

This solo carrier craze will die an ugly death once you guys start seeing these things as PREY, not as a predator. There are about a dozen effective strategies for dealing with carriers and all of them are on killing the squadrons. Pick your poison and go take down the ships.

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Milostiev
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#25 - 2016-06-01 17:08:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Milostiev
Erebus Vain wrote:
Fat Buddah wrote:
EVE PvP is more about engineering your fights such that you have a good chance of winning.
Most often this involves having patience, avoiding undesirable engagements, and catching smaller/weaker opponents by surprise whenever possible.
Of course this is a two way game, so almost always one of the two engaging party is wishing he was not at the receiving end of the space pew pew.

Things likely to happen are likely to happen.
When I'm betting on the 00 in roulette, I don't expect the winning chance to be 'fair' and be 50%. Same with the PvP. When my solo ship or my small gang is helplessly destroyed, it is because I have gone against the odds, or my opponent has better utilised his resources such that he has better chance of killing my spaceship.


Engineering fights seems to be the key for sure. It reminds me of a John Steinbeck quote, "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."


Unfair fights don't get the blood pumping, don't make for great vids to promote EVE and certainly makes ppl quit because a game company makes money on the trek to the final objective.
If the player wins this easily, eventually thre will be less opponents, and without excitement, boredom sets in.

The kind of boredom that killed the CFC (blues everywhere, where to go and fight, so far away), only eve wide (farm kills, excitement for a few days, meh sets in, roamers stop coming in).
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2016-06-02 10:55:53 UTC
BECAUSE OF CARRIER
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#27 - 2016-06-02 12:50:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sustrai Aditua
Lan Wang wrote:
dont get me wrong i still take my hat off to you for doing it and your vargur videos inspired me to try out losing shiney stuff just for fun Lol
At last...the self-inflicted ISK drain has been activated. After years of planning "they" finally pulled it off....

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-06-02 13:50:03 UTC
lollerwaffle wrote:
BECAUSE OF CARRIER


inb4 CCP_Carrier

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Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#29 - 2016-06-02 14:15:31 UTC
TackyTachy1 wrote:
I was mining in lo-sec, three Skiffs (MultiBoxer) when a Vexor showed up. Hey, I said to myself, I got lotsa drones, lets kill a Vexor, forgetting what should be branded on my ass with a real hot iron: Eve hunters never hunt alone. We mixed it up, it was cool, then a carrier showed up and it was game over real quick. I did other stupid stuff, lost more stuff but that was pretty well the first mistake. I don't know about killing all this other stuff but it didn't take that long to kill me (x3).


I don't know whether to laugh or cry at somebody using a carrier to kill miners...

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

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