EVE General Discussion

IMO, as it's been said already:

1. He's looking for a fight.

2. The rules are:
a. As soon as he shoots the MTU, he goes suspect, meaning anyone can shoot him.
b. Anyone who shoots him gets a limited engagement timer; he can shoot back.
c. He can have friends providing off-grid boosts, but any remote repair or logistics ship that comes to aid him will also go suspect.
d. Any of his friends that warp in can't shoot you until you shoot them first.
e. You have to wait for his friends to provide remote repair assistance so they go suspect, before shooting them.

So:

1. Make sure you can tackle him with warp scrams and disruptors so he can't switch to a bigger ship. The suspect and limited engagement flags will last many minutes, and don't prevent anyone from docking up and getting a bigger ship. You have to make sure he's tackled if you're going to engage. Scram to disable his MWD, webifiers to keep him close, and energy neut to disable him.

2. Once he's shot your MTU, he's suspect. Tackle him, bring your friends in, everyone can shoot a suspect, Concord won't get involved. If he brings in logi repairs, the logi will have to go suspect to help him, so wait for that, then attack the logi ship, but you'll need to deal enough DPS to break a spider tank. To do that, bring ECM jammers, they mess up logi ships really bad. Also make sure everyone is tackled so they can't run away and bring bigger ships.

Depends on how many friends he has or what his plan is, you and your tacklers + him tackled + a couple Griffins / Blackbirds / Falcons to dissuade his logi friends from risking their ships may do the trick.

AKA, for the fun of it... okay, I'll buy that... this is EVE after all. However, if I wanted to do something for the fun of it in HiSec to blow some ISK, I'd do this with a rookie ship, fresh out of the box with a Civilian weapon and pick on an MTU.

Not only would it have the owner rolling on the floor laughing, I'd add insult to injury and demand he pay me a bribe to let the MTU live. If he blew me up, I'd be back with another, then another, then another... ad nauseum. Once he gave me my bribe, I'd crow to the universe I made a Golem bow down to me in my Velator, civilian grade.

I killed a rattlesnake with a purifier.

That said, I agree. If your Golem can't handle a manticore, it deserves to die.

The return is the contents of the MTU. The risk is minimal because you don't get shot nearly as often as you'd expect with a suspect flag in high sec because everyone is terrified of all these advanced bait and switch scenarios. I've flown back and forth from Jita to Amarr popping MTUs and reinforcing MDs in a stealth bomber for hours, suspect flagged virtually the entire time, without even being locked up.

I agree there is no baiting here. It's just a dude in an SB taking MTU loot because he can. Blap the Manticore then dock up for the rest of the LE. There's no conspiracy here...

Never not shoot players who are attacking your MTU, even if you die I can guarantee it'll be a lot more fun and rewarding than the mission you've been doing.

Oh you gota flash some leg, take agression , hold him , you know waggle yer bum a bit, keep him focused before you tackle him.

Sounds like you had fun.
I bet it got his heart pumping too.
+1

One of two things told him something was up:
1: This thread.
2: There are frigs in this site. Hmm, wonder why?

If he's blasting ya mobile tractors why not just drop one, bookmark it, come back in a covert and stick yer metaphorical fist up his ass. Then move to Null.. at least there you'll have something worth losing.

More than likely this thread tipped him off maybe...or could have been I named the MTU "Behind You"..

The setup:

Dude was sitting in the station we run out of and had just seen him dock up. Seems when he sees me in and out he goes looking for me and my nice cans..

So.... I warped to a combat site and dropped one out..let the drones take their time on the rats. We already assumed he was going to warp from the station @ 100km from site... So the other 2 that were going to jump him waited to do the exact same. When I saw him come in he didn't go to range or orbit this time, he just sat there for a second.

Buddies warped in but he had aligned back to the station right as the other 2 got in about 10km from him. He had just hit the "freedom" button when they stopped and spammed CTRL + Left click click click click click click...dammit...

Twas funs.. He never took a shot at the MTU even though I was doing lots of jumping jacks and screaming "over here!! Look!! Look!!"....