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Employment history should be hidden

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Sebulba Kashuken
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#1 - 2016-05-31 15:12:38 UTC
I dont get it, why Employment history is visibe, not good for rookie players, when veteran seas someone with EH of week or month he knows it could be easy target, so this should be hidden, if corp wants to see my EH then i should be able to send/show them.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-05-31 15:21:35 UTC
it could also fool someone else to think they are an easy target and they get rekt for being complacent.

EVE is a psychological game in many aspects, let's not remove things like this that add to it.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2016-05-31 15:23:48 UTC
Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.

Charachter age actually means nothing anymore.
Sebulba Kashuken
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#4 - 2016-05-31 15:27:25 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
it could also fool someone else to think they are an easy target and they get rekt for being complacent.

EVE is a psychological game in many aspects, let's not remove things like this that add to it.


it could be the case in just few cases
Sebulba Kashuken
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#5 - 2016-05-31 15:29:43 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.

Charachter age actually means nothing anymore.


usually means lower skill points, game knowledge
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#6 - 2016-05-31 15:44:59 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.

Charachter age actually means nothing anymore.


usually means lower skill points, game knowledge


skill injectors kinda rekt that

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2016-05-31 15:53:39 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.

Charachter age actually means nothing anymore.


usually means lower skill points, game knowledge

It can also mean...

- alt character of a veteran (see: spy!)
- disposable cyno alt (see: extreme threat, primary on sight!)
- scout and/or alt character scout for a roaming gang (see: eyes and bait, better shoot it just to be safe)
- bored veteran having a giggle (see: it's a trap!)


In all seriousness... lower skillpoints and experience does not mean a new player is a mewling kitten with no capacity to defend him/herself.
Are they easier targets? Yes. But they have tools at their disposal and they simply need to pick them up and come up with a plan... just like I and every other newbie did before.
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2016-05-31 16:02:36 UTC
I wouldn't concern yourself too much with your employment history. With all of the tools available in the game (being allowed to make alts, selling characters on the character bazaar, skill injectors, etc) it is difficult to tell the capability of someone based on their employment history alone.

ISD Fractal

Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Sebulba Kashuken
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#9 - 2016-05-31 16:10:54 UTC
ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Roll
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#10 - 2016-05-31 16:27:39 UTC
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Nearly all the Intel tools got nerfed badly. Employment history is one of the few remaining that has some relevance... but not much as has been pointed out.

Rookies aren't usually targeted anyway because they don't usually have much. However if you're jumping through gates with a PLEX in your cargo hold, it won't matter how old your character is... they are going to be in for an interesting time. So, it's more about what you do and where you put yourself that are serious risk factors, not how old the toon is.
Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#11 - 2016-05-31 17:18:43 UTC
A three year old player complaining that employment history can't be hidden is slightly suspicious to me.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2016-05-31 17:21:59 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Roll
Why? In what ways would it improve the game?

As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

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Sebulba Kashuken
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#13 - 2016-06-01 12:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sebulba Kashuken
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Roll
Why? In what ways would it improve the game?

As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by.


whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? Blink im not walking with my CV in public places
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#14 - 2016-06-01 12:40:23 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Roll
Why? In what ways would it improve the game?

As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by.


whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? Blink im not walking with my CV in public places


so we can all see the dank corporations you have been in

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Memphis Baas
#15 - 2016-06-01 12:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
People, people, let's compromise the usual way:

- Employment history is visible with an API check. Like your wallet, what skills you're training, your emails, etc.

It's an academic issue.

To the OP: you're asking for something that goes a bit against the spirit of the game. You don't have a choice to have PVP happen to you, you don't have a choice but to appear in the Local chat channel even if you're cloaked, you don't have a choice when locator agents give away your position to your enemies, you don't have a choice when someone places a bounty on your head, and so on.

You want to hide what you've done in the past... guess what, they will remember your name, and they will see A LOT more details from your killboard stats, from the API check that every corp requires, from your IP address when you join their forums, etc.

But hey, thanks for posting and letting us know you're a thief, awoxer, and spy, that took a lot of courage. You have our respect.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-06-01 14:58:09 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Roll
Why? In what ways would it improve the game?

As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by.


whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? Blink im not walking with my CV in public places



So that every CEO can know what you did in your previous corp so they can reject your application if you were a douche.

What OP thinks about corp history wrote:

He's just a pubbie - check his corp history,

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-06-01 15:12:34 UTC
Why not. It's much more 'free intel' than watchlist. Let's get rid of local, overview, and dscan too. They don't require any skills to use and they just give so much FREE INTEL!

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Titan's Lament

Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-06-01 16:18:39 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
I dont get it, why Employment history is visibe, not good for rookie players, when veteran seas someone with EH of week or month he knows it could be easy target, so this should be hidden, if corp wants to see my EH then i should be able to send/show them.


This is such a situational complaint.

Like how it would be nice if you didnt show up in local if youre cloaked, which is great if youre the one who is cloaked and about to pounce on a target, but sucks if youre the target.

You may not like the employment history being visible, but later on when you start getting into this game, you'll appreciate how you can take a single look at a neutral in local and see if he is a threat or not.

Maybe then you'll be saying "Man, I was wrong, im glad i can see this guys employment history, otherwise i wouldve never known that this guy is so dangerous".
Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-06-01 18:15:42 UTC
and once again it applies!; Malcanis's Law - "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."




Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#20 - 2016-06-01 18:38:24 UTC
Sebulba Kashuken wrote:
I dont get it, why Employment history is visibe, not good for rookie players, when veteran seas someone with EH of week or month he knows it could be easy target, so this should be hidden, if corp wants to see my EH then i should be able to send/show them.

No. That would have reduced my chances at gank baiting with alts significantly in the past.

Remove standings and insurance.

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