Player Features and Ideas Discussion

true but i feel at best it would work and introduce an extremely limited item with much more potential or at worst never be used and we all continue hub humping

Just cap the number of war decs plus assists at 10. Problem solved.

No matter what mechanics CCP uses large will ALWAYS have an advantage over small, the only way to eliminate this part of the problem is to change it so you can only war dec a corp / alliance that has more members than you and then lock both aggressor and defender corps / alliances so no one can join for the duration of the war.


Limit the number of wars an aggressor corp can have active, limit them to only deccing a group with the same or more members, put a reasonable maximum limit on the length of a dec (1 week maybe 10 days) and add a timer (at least 1 month) before you can re-dec that same group and then we may have some reasonable grounds on which to discuss preventing players from leaving a defending corp. In the current system where the aggressors have total control of the entire process CCP has very little choice, to protect cash flow (subscribers) they have to allow players to drop corp or reform.

But you do make a valid point Lugh Crow-Slave, any restrictions put on the aggressors side needs to be balanced with restrictions on the defenders side. Players will always have ways to dodge war decs, not logging in, playing the game using an alt character or simply quit so in the end there is really nothing that CCP can or even should do about this side of the problem. Besides that is one of the risk versus benefits portions of the war dec mechanic, you pay your money and take your chances maybe you get targets maybe you don't.

Yeah i understand that larger organised entities have an inherint advantage, my problem with structur based wars is that it panders even further to the same large entities who basicaly just camp key systems and the pipes leading to them ,
all they have to do is move their sebod t3's,neutral logi and vindys to your/their structure and sit on the damn thing



Im also not seeingwhy locking agressors into a war for even longer than they currently are will help matters, shurly more fredom to drop a war would be prefferable
Think about it, you only have to avoid the hubs for as long as their patince holds rather than a full week (or longer in your praposal)

The targets of locates and watchlist could be told who the owners of the observatory watching them are.

Missed the important part. If the aggressor can only dec corps that are larger then they are always at a disadvantage size wise and as such your concern as quoted above becomes a non-issue.
As far as moving the camping from gates / stations to the structures that is intended. It forces the aggressors AND the defenders to make a choice, you can protect your structure or you can go try to destroy the other sides or you can try to do both all of which offers more game play options and the opportunity for more real combat in space than the simple gate / station camps we have now.



I never stated that we should lock players into a war for the duration. I simply stated that there needs to be a MAXIMUM duration a war can run. Currently the aggressors can keep a corp perma decced if they want and that is what needs to change.
Likewise the current broken mechanic that locks the aggressors into a war for the entire week, or they have to opt to surrender to end it is equally idiotic and needs to change an aggressor should be able to simply drop a dec whenever they want.


So we go this route, once a corp has had a war started against them no other corp can start a war until the current on ends. But as you have pointed out in the past this allows you permanent war dec immunity because alt corps and that is not a good thing either. So I will turn this back around, you can point out the flaw do you have an idea to solve it?

I can think of one but it may not be feasible. CCP knows which real person owns which characters and which corps those characters are in. They could create an automated data search that looks at the rosters of both the corp filing the dec and the corp being decced, if there are characters in both corps own by the same person then the war would be rejected.