EVE New Citizens Q&A

It is not that the Nemesis only works against "larger ships"... they can be used to nuke smaller ships too with the right setups.

The issue is that the Nemesis (and Stealth Bombers in general) are hyperspecialized in nuking things quickly and then GTFO (usually under the cover of a Covert-Ops cloak).

The tradeoff for their relatively high firepower and ability to cloak is that they have the tank of a wet paper bag and are slow for a frigate.

Stealth Bombers are the definition of "glass cannon."


There are no rules that say "you must use this" or "you must use that."

I have found that if you can use a different ship to accomplish something... give it a try. Just bear in mind that you may have to change up tactics to use it effectively.

Example: A Vexor is a cruiser. It is fat and slow compared to a Worm (a frigate). But it carries more drones and can tank FAR more straight damage.
The Worm, when properly skilled and fitted, can deal almost the same damage as a Vexor. It is faster (which can be used to mitigate damage) and doesn't need as many drones to kick out the aforementioned damage. But if caught, it will die quicker and set you back further than a Vexor.

And "special ships" like (Faction, Tech 2, and Tech 3 ships) do not get good insurance when they blow up. So if you lose it, it is money out of your pocket.


Tech 2 drones (not Level 2 drones) are all around better than Tech 1 drones as they are tougher, faster, and deal more damage.
However, as you have noted, they are more expensive.

The thing about drones is that you should not be losing many, or any, drones during missions. If you are, then you are doing something wrong or not doing something you should be.

I am going to go on a ledge here and assume that you leave your drones out even when they are aggressed by the NPC... correct? Don't do that.

NPCs will switch targets based on what they feel is the most "threatening."
Generally speaking, the order of NPC aggro priority is...
Remote Repairs > Electronic Warfare > Drones > your ship.

You can use this to your advantage by slapping on a Target Painter (a form of Electronic Warfare that gives the target a bigger "sensor footprint" and thus make it easier to hit) to your ship and using it on the NPC your drones are attacking.
Bear in mind though that this is no silver bullet and NPCs will switch targets at some point. So you have to be ready to pull in your drones to save them.



Here are some other things to consider:

Gallente drones (Hobgoblin, Hammerhead, Orge) are the slowest, but will deal the most raw damage. They are also preferred in PvE because the damage type they deal (Thermal damage) is either the primary or secondary weakness of almost all NPCs.
Minmatar drones(Warriors, Valkyrie , Berserker) are the fastst and have the best tracking (application), but deal the least damage. However they are preferred against certain NPCs that Gallente drones are not effective against (Angel Cartel).

Light drones are typically better against Frigates / Destroyer NPCs and larger.
Medium Drones are typically better against Cruiser NPCs and larger.
Larger / Sentry drones are typically better against Battlecruiser NPCs and larger.
And the bigger the drone, the slower the drone.

It is better to have 5 drones of a smaller type than 1 or 2 drones of a larger type. Not only will the smaller drones be more effective against a wider range of targets (due to damage application as mentioned above) but it takes longer to reduce the damage of said drones (because there are more of them to kill).

A Drake with auto-targetting missiles would also be a good choice given it's immense shield tank ability and relatively low skill requirement, even with only T1 shield but I would recommend training for T2 shield mods to get the most out of it. The auto-targetting missiles will let you blitz through just about everything, plus it has the added bonus of a drone bay. The downside is that it's about as mobile as a Koala without either an MJD or sizeable MWD.

EDIT: Just a small note, auto-targetting missiles do slightly less damage than their regular counterparts and have their own skills. So that's also something to consider, but for the most part; they're a GREAT timesaver.

Hi!
I agree with all here, but just want to comment on a few things.

1. Befrore you start training to another ship, make sure you have at least all "core" skills to at least lvl 4. I would prefer lvl 5.
Reason is you can fit your ship better.
Also consider typical "support" skills. As you fly gallente, I'm thinking of armor skills, drone and gunnery skills.
Get those up and you can probably do most lvl3 missions in your vexor.

2. Drones: If you are talking about light drones vs medium; the light drones hit the targets better because of the signature radius.
Shoting bees with cannon doesn't work very well.
Use light drones on frigs and dessis, medium on cruisers and BC, Heavy on BC and BS.

3. Fitting adaption: If you are armor tanking, I assume you are as you fly a Vexor.
Use the hardner that your enemies deal. and use the right drone to fight them.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_Damage_Types
Use armor tank, only resistance and rep. No extender.

If you need any advice, contact me ingame, and I'll send you a few fits :)

Fly safe.

I recently finished my "grind" through level 2 soe missions so i can do level 4 for them (because there was only level 3 in amarr space available :/). I used a Wolf for level 2 (which was great fun) and switched to a svipul. The t3 destroyer was total overkill. I´d guess at least SOME of the level 3 missions can be done with t3 destroyers.

I preffer fast / small ships. So the svipul came in pretty handy.

EDIT:
Just took a look on eft. With 4x 200mm AC II + Rocket launcher II and standard ammo it´s doing 380 dps (without rigs, +3 Gyros II).
So i bet @ level 4 and rigs it should be around 300 - 320 dps. The tank is excellent in def-mode.
Sadly i don´t know if the Hecate is as usefull for missions as the Svipul.

I guess the main problem would be any mission with spider drones.

Actually, sounds like a fun idea. I might try something like that.

FYI: Bombs can't be launched in High-sec or Low-sec.

If you could, small groups would make liberal use of them.

Thanks all for some amazing feedback. I'm going to bookmark this thread and keep coming back to it ... lots of good advice and things to try. I will probably respond to some individual points when the holiday stuff is over.



Sorry, not trying to be rude, but I can't resist this.

"Nit" - the egg or immature form of a parasitic creature, like a louse. Thus "nit picking" refers to the search for very small things in, for example, one's hair, and, by analogy, the finding of small errors in a piece of writing.

To "knit" is, among other things, to form wool into a garment.

What I just did is "nit picking level 2 (or maybe tech level 2)", that is nit picking a nit pick. :-) You may now attempt to take it to level 3, though you may be sure that I have checked my wording very carefully. :-)

^^^


If you like vexor droneboat for PVE - get Myrmidon, train drone navigation and drone durability skills. Put drone navigation computer and omnidirectional tracking link with tracking speed script in midslot, drone link augmentor in high slot.

Look at Tengu tech3 cruiser and see if that interests you. Tengu is missiles-only (most configurations of it ) and shield tanked rather than armour-tanked like vexor/myrmidon/dominix but good at PVE.

Tengu most funest ship i ever fly :) always be a good ship to work towards

If this is for missioning: first get a navy vexor and then skip up to the Dominix.

The Dominix is low SP friendly and will let you quickly jump up to the easier L4's which are much more profitable.