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I NEED YOUR HELP

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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-05-29 13:59:13 UTC
Okay so on another channel we had a lot of videos but they are 6-9 months old. So, we decided, instead of mixing these videos, we would create a channel that would 90% be dedicated to eve. Specifically, at getting new players into eve online by documenting everything eve has to offer with "how to" videos coming out of our ass.

That new channel can be found here

So this is what we have done SO FAR as videos.

1. Char Creation
2. Getting Started
3. Station Services
4. SOE Research Project
5. Plexes & Skill Injectors/Extractors
6. Implants/Attribute Enhancers
7. NPC Combat 1o1
8. Starting Business Agents
9. Industry Agents
10. Salvaging 1o1
11. Data Analyser 1o1
12. Relic Analyser 1o1
13. Where To Now?
14. What Is Faction Warfare? – (Expand Of This)

This is what will be done over the next 2 weeks.

15. What modules do I need to train for, for pvp?
16. Tech 1 Frigates
17. Tech 1 Destroyers
18. Tech 1 Cruisers
19. Tech 1 Battlecruisers
20. Tech 1 Battleships
21. Exploration 1o1
22. What are the mineral types of eve?
23. What do minerals reprocess into?
24. Difference between armor and shield tanking
25. What agents should I run missions for?
26. What are incursions?
27. What is low security space?
28. What is null security space?
29. What is wormhole space?
30. Faction frigates
31. Faction destroyers
32. Faction cruisers
33. Faction battlecruisers
34. Faction battleships
35. Tech 2 frigates
36. Tech 2 destroyers
37. Tech 2 cruisers
38. Tech 2 battlecruisers
39. Tech 2 battleships
40. Tech 3 cruisers
41. What is a POS?
42. What is a POCO?
43. Mining barges
44. Haulers
45. Freighters?

Now, we need your help

What videos can you think of for us to do? on what? what subjects? etc

WE NEED YOUR HELP.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-05-29 14:11:56 UTC
1. Link to the channel is broken.

2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch.

In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-05-29 14:21:45 UTC
Some players will surely get ganked within their first month. In my experience, these will be the ones who Venture too soon into a 0.5 system in Highsec or who use skill injectors/PLEX injudiciously.

I'm not suggesting you make a warning video about these matters, though.

What I think might be nice is a video of a gank, from the victim's point of view. What you'll see, what you'll hear.

The first time it happened to me, in Lowsec, I was completely paralysed, and for long enough that my pod went west too.

Since it's certain to happen to some, it might be helpful to show what it's like - and what to do about it. This is not Advanced EVE or something esoteric; it's absolutely vital to retaining the few that might decide EVE isn't for them on the basis that they lost their ship (and/or pod).

On a lighter note, you should also definitely devote a whole video to the New Order of Highsec, and our activities. I can offer high quality audio support and light refreshment on the verandah.
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-05-29 14:22:52 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
1. Link to the channel is broken.

2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch.

In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux.


Seems to be working now...
Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-05-29 16:48:25 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
1. Link to the channel is broken.

2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch.

In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux.


Very immature response, our previous guide and videos have reached over 20k views in 4 months, so we are not crap video makers

the fact the link doesn't work for you speaks volumes about the type of content on your pc, lol much?

His videos, are boring, to long, not to the point and ego driven.

Trolling a thread, is stupid, don't do it, i am asking for help to make subjects from, not be slagged off by an alt
Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-05-29 17:40:41 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Some players will surely get ganked within their first month. In my experience, these will be the ones who Venture too soon into a 0.5 system in Highsec or who use skill injectors/PLEX injudiciously.

I'm not suggesting you make a warning video about these matters, though.

What I think might be nice is a video of a gank, from the victim's point of view. What you'll see, what you'll hear.

The first time it happened to me, in Lowsec, I was completely paralysed, and for long enough that my pod went west too.

Since it's certain to happen to some, it might be helpful to show what it's like - and what to do about it. This is not Advanced EVE or something esoteric; it's absolutely vital to retaining the few that might decide EVE isn't for them on the basis that they lost their ship (and/or pod).

On a lighter note, you should also definitely devote a whole video to the New Order of Highsec, and our activities. I can offer high quality audio support and light refreshment on the verandah.


That's a good point, i think i will

want to kill me :P
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#7 - 2016-05-29 19:18:31 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
...In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux....
Not all of them! My links always lead to the chocolate nougat center - especially if you like humor, or really good tunes you may have all but forgotten!

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-05-29 19:20:15 UTC
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:


That's a good point, i think i will

want to kill me :P


Haha! You're welcome, any time...

What I'd like is to keep this on topic though. I strongly support the efforts of all creative people to enhance the Game, whether through images, video, writing, audio - you name it.

I noticed a somewhat dismissive comment, above, and thought it unkind. Even if there are other videos covering the subjects offered, why shouldn't our new players have a choice?
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-05-29 19:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
1. Link to the channel is broken.

2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch.

In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux.


Very immature response, our previous guide and videos have reached over 20k views in 4 months, so we are not crap video makers

the fact the link doesn't work for you speaks volumes about the type of content on your pc, lol much?

His videos, are boring, to long, not to the point and ego driven.

Trolling a thread, is stupid, don't do it, i am asking for help to make subjects from, not be slagged off by an alt

If trolling a thread is stupid, don't do it, why did you?

Ad hominems aren't intelligent or cool. My reply was genuine and go click the link on a phone. I wasn't using a desktop. Little bit more modern technology that's often used to consume information, see here: http://puu.sh/p9r1v/bed47f5e13.jpg

As to your attack on Talladar, imho his videos are very informative and of high quality.

I didn't at any point say yours a crap videos, but quite frankly in response to your post, go **** yourself.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-05-29 19:53:54 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:

As to your attack on Talladar, imho his videos are very informative and of high quality.


I've definitely enjoyed many of Talladar's videos; they certainly add value to the game.

During a recent discussion on the My EVE sub-forum (I think....) the subject of length arose. Some folks find lengthy instructional videos quite difficult to absorb, for a number of reasons - all of them valid. Others avoid brief pithy videos, for equally valid reasons. Then there's the subject matter, which may also dictate the type and length of the treatment.

In short, make whatever your instinct tells you to make; and ditch the comparisons.
Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2016-05-29 20:51:18 UTC
Bottom line is

Only cowards post with alts, end of story

Use your main of gtfo.

I find his videos boring period.

Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid

Why did you even post here?
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-05-29 20:54:37 UTC
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:
Bottom line is

Only cowards post with alts, end of story

Use your main of gtfo.

I find his videos boring period.

Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid

Why did you even post here?

You screamed at us that you needed help. You seemed desperate for assistance. Just my neighbourly thing.

If posting on alts is a bad thing, are you saying that Evasive Shadow Assassin is your name IRL? Or is that just a character name, no different to any other character name in that it is totally fictitious?

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-05-30 09:19:23 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:
Bottom line is

Only cowards post with alts, end of story

Use your main of gtfo.

I find his videos boring period.

Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid

Why did you even post here?

You screamed at us that you needed help. You seemed desperate for assistance. Just my neighbourly thing.

If posting on alts is a bad thing, are you saying that Evasive Shadow Assassin is your name IRL? Or is that just a character name, no different to any other character name in that it is totally fictitious?


Well, if you wanted to help you could at least then have watched the videos on something that is able to watch them and then comment. Saying do it like Talladar without knowing how OP did the videos is pretty disrespectfull. And to the add hominem thing, I have seen you commit add hominems on these forums yourself (For example against Dracvlad), so get off you high horse. I think you are also the one admitting on these forums, you like to bait people like Dracvlad and Lucas Kell into responding to you, as the forums are too dull (correct me if it was not you). So don't whine if people think you are trolling. Try to be constructive, if you want to help.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-05-30 10:58:16 UTC
Load of carebeary **** that completely ignores half the game, the more fun half. You sell people on eve with stories like the GHSC heist, where is the lesson in infiltration and corp theft? 45 lessons, not one of them 'dark side'

Yawn.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-05-30 11:03:09 UTC
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:
Bottom line is

Only cowards post with alts, end of story

Use your main of gtfo.

I find his videos boring period.

Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid

Why did you even post here?


I hope you're not addressing me. Despite appearances, this is my main. I don't regard membership of a player corporation as a necessity to my play style. When it does become necessary, or sensible, I'll act accordingly.

We seem to be veering away from the very important matter of providing new (or any) players with suitable material for their instruction.

I support any such initiative, and hope that contributors to the thread will read the original post and make suggestions in a helpful and friendly manner.

Shall we begin again?

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-05-30 11:05:16 UTC
sero Hita wrote:
Well, if you wanted to help you could at least then have watched the videos on something that is able to watch them and then comment. Saying do it like Talladar without knowing how OP did the videos is pretty disrespectfull. Try to be constructive

I've watched the OPs videos. Hence my suggestion to go watch Talladar's. As to constructive, each in our own way. It would be a pretty boring place if we all just patted each other on the back, telling each other how good we are.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-05-30 11:42:00 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:

I've watched the OPs videos. Hence my suggestion to go watch Talladar's. As to constructive, each in our own way. It would be a pretty boring place if we all just patted each other on the back, telling each other how good we are.


I knew something was bothering me; it's 'Hendrick Tallardar'. There; got that out of the way.

There is always going to be exemplary work in any chosen field. Should that invalidate the efforts of 'lesser' lights? I'm sure you don't think it should.

Encouragement needn't be insincere, nor boring. Intelligently applied, in this connection, it tends to increase the pool of available instructional material (which is no bad thing), and perhaps even to spur on the creator to ever greater achievement.

I would not have embarked on my own creative path in EVE had I allowed myself to be disheartened by the great work of folks like Jeff Raider and the Crossing Zebras crew.


Lisbeth Riraille
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-05-30 13:21:39 UTC
Link works for me on my iPhone.

A 'gankees-eye-view' vid would be useful I think, accompanied by calm reassurance that it's normal and rare if you know what you're doing.

Also, some vids about how to make the ISK jump from 50mil earned to 300mil earned.

There's room for more than one 'how-to' channel. Keep at it, OP.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-05-30 13:46:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
Meh, watched part of your "Getting started" video and you suggested newbies to train lvl 5 gunnery immediately. That is a 2% Rate of fire increase for 4 days worth of training. Totally not worth it for a complete newbie. That fact that this is what you advised, shows me you probably don't have too much knowledge about the game and your advice can actually be harmful for a newbie.

Your attitude in this thread is also really not that great. You accuse people of being immature and Tallardars videos for being ego driven, but you show all these "qualities" yourself in this thread.

I wish you luck with your videos, but I'd advise any newbie out there to instead take a look at CCPs own tutorial videos. They are actually pretty well made.
Evasive Shadow Assassin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-05-30 13:47:32 UTC
Yes so you watched 1 video, then didn't watch the rest in relation to skills to what to train?

You have taken what i said and twisted it, i said *for now*

Think, before you post
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