EVE General Discussion

Yeah, they seem to have downgraded the tutorial since the last time I played. I don't know what they're thinking.

In their mind, that has forced you to post here, thereby interacting with the rest of the players, who are really the strength of the game, and blah blah blah. Plus, CCP studies show that when players are presented with the full tutorial, they subscribe for much less time than if they have the current experience.

In any case, here are some guides on how to get started:
reddit post
Eve University guide
youtube video

And, the bulk of the previous "tutorial" was actually handled by the 5 career agents, who gave you some missions after Aura was done talking. Those agents still exist, they just don't automatically upload their missions to you. Either use the in-game Agent Finder to find the "career agents", or EVE University to the rescue again.

EDIT: They forgot the statistic that only about 1% of the players post on the forums, by the way. Meaning 99% of the new players just quit before they even proceed to this particular "interaction" step of the new player experience. Congrats being a 1%'er, btw.

The worst part is, a ton of people on the test server told them how bad the opportunities new player experience was. Yet, they pushed it out anyway with multiple blatant issues (like telling you to buy something on the market at a point where you probably don't have enough isk to even buy anything at all, with no direction on how to actually make isk) and pretty much stonewalling a new player.

Its actually improved quite a bit since release, which shows how sad it was at the start. Still worse than the old ones, and they weren't exactly good .

People are much more responsive to the game when they go through the tutorial.

The new tutorial is very organic in the way it teaches new things to a new player. First, you start out undocked and in space, which in itself is very important, since space is the most important place in an internet spaceship game, and starting out in space makes a new player learn on how to move and travel around first and foremost.

Back when I started, I only learned how to move actually my ship on my third day. I knew how to warp and how to align, and was using only those two commands to move around in belts (you can imagine it was not very efficient). It took a friendly GM to teach me about how clicking in space made my ship move in that general direction. It is not very intuitive, and most new players are boggled on how this simple principle works, and wham their WASD keys pointlessly in an attempt to move their ship.

People shouldn't skip the tutorial in EVE, and there have been plenty of suggestions to make tutorials more forceful and compulsory than what we have now. What I do agree is that the current tutorial doesn't guide new players towards the career agents as the old Aura did, which is a big shame.

Uhm....the OP is either spectacularly dumb or less than genuine. The current tutorial is nothing like described.
The windfall of responses? A matter of the blind leading the blind.

We can't stop people from making absurd posts like this. We can only hope the rest of us are intelligent enough to detect them as they come, and from some people, avalanches are inevitable.

Ye-es...ok, then

It's just CCP going back to their roots.

Back when I started, the tutorial consisted of "This is space. Go forth and do stuff". Then when you inevitably got your ship destroyed minutes later, Aura would laugh at how useless you are.

Ah...the good ol' days.

Mr Epeen

"You're"? Speaking of doing research, had you done yours you'd know this character is but a couple of months old, and yes, has done the current intro. Oddly enough, it isn't at all the way you and the OP describe it.

However, I can see how someone needing to be led by the hand, and with difficulty with obvious detail could mistake a few things, and miss quite a few more. I'd have to know a bit more about the individual involved, but wouldn't be surprised to find this isn't the only such thing where difficulties such as these arise.

Disrespectful? Yeah. There are those who think speaking the truth to one who has a scant grasp of it is an affront and disrespectful. Fortunately, I am not numbered among such delusionals.

Curiously, when I started EVE in 2006 there was the typical tutorial for a game: "you board a ship with this command, this is your readout and this section show this while this other section show that, this button command this" and so on. 20 minutes and you had a good grasp of the basic commands. Sure there wasn't a lot of the current stuff, but basics like you shot this way, if you are using guns radial velocity oft the target against your tracking is important, you move in space pointing to a direction and so on were covered.

Most of the tutorial of the tutorial agents don't teach anything, mostly they are "you can do this, this is the module to do it, go and do it".
Self evident for some thing, way less for others.

I started in space in my Ibis near an asteroid with an orbiting NPC frigate.

That's it. That's all there was. No Aura, nor instructions of any kind. Not even a mission in my journal.

This is sometimes referred to as the "Rubic Cube Tutorial", or the "Here's a ship. FU. Tutorial".

Yet here I still am over seven years later. I bought a full year subscription within my first hour.