EVE General Discussion

I'm using new camera for quite long. Disabled all the 'features' of it and tuned some slider. Now it looks like ok. So no loss here.

You can fine tune the camera to be an almost exact replica of the old one. Stop your entitled whining.

The old ones are not better. You are just accustomed to them.

You could choose to adapt, or you could come to the forums and... ohh wait.

The following issues remain unresolved:

• There is no way (at least none that is obvious) to adjust the tracking point of the tracking camera. This leads to most targets being hidden behind the ship. This solves the old design fault of not having your ship centred at all times, but does so in such a way as to ensure you don't see the target instead. Bring back the old tracking point setting, and remember to still keep your own ship centred. Effectively, this means that the tracking camera still isn't a tracking camera, but now it isn't one in a completely new (but equally useless) way than the previous attempt.

• Turning auto-tracking on does not track your current target. You have to enable the tracking camera, then select an object for it to start tracking, rather than the old behaviour where just turning tracking would… well… turn the tracking on. While there is a separate “track target” command, there is no rhyme or reason to the auto-tracking not auto-tracking when it is turned on.

• Tracking camera does not toggle. If you are tracking a target, turning the tracking camera off does not turn the tracking camera off — all it does is ensure that the next time you pick an object, that object is not being tracked. You still have to break the tracking manually. This holds true for both the auto-track, and single-track commands.

• Look camera does not toggle. Same thing here: if you are looking at a target, repeating the action does not turn the look camera off; quite the opposite. Turning look off is a separate action. This is particularly silly since, unlike the tracking camera, the “selected objects” panel actually does offer a functional toggle — it just doesn't carry over to the camera shortcut.

• FoV adjustments are insanely limited. While the shortcut for adjusting FoV is more convenient than the old Ctrl-Alt-RL-Mouse Drag, the actual range of the adjustment is crippled to hell. You used to be able to look right down the throat of a station undock from 500km away (a pretty important feature for properly lining up insta-undocks); now even the most narrow zoom still leaves the station a speck in the distance. The old keyboard combination is still there, but offers the exact same adjustment and is therefore pointless.

• Still not independent RClick-slewing of the camera that lets you quick-look away and then snap back to your previous direction.

• Still no equal and linear acceleration on zoom, pan, and tilt.

• Camera resets and changes still aren't instant, and instead involve some insipid and drunken camera move to shift the camera over to the new object. Even with all fancy effects and inertia turned off, you spend time looking at nothing rather than the thing you're asking the game to show you.

But two things have been fixed at least:

• Settings like the tactical overview seem to persist between mode switches.
• Minimum inertia offers a useful camera stability.


Conclusion, same as before: just fully reimplement every last bit of functionality of the old camera, because it is still in every way vastly superior to all new camera modes combined. If you absolutely must have a tactical view to make the new carrier drone UI make sense, and you feel very strongly about having a dynamic view for movie making, then that's fine. They're secondary to the point of utter and complete irrelevance compared to having a basic camera that works, though, so get working on that part some time much later when you've refactored the old camera fully into the new system.

New camera is not ready for prime-time and remains turned off.