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Help needed with Federation Navy Comet

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1 - 2012-01-14 07:44:10 UTC
I am not good at fitting ships. My ships rely more on wits and intel than anything else to survive, but Battle clinic does not rate on those factors.

Recently I was on a long trip and looked at the tutorials, something I have not done since 2006, and saw the tutorial on production. It so happens that I had a Navy Comet blueprint sitting in the hangar and certainly no shortage of modules I don't need and could reprocess.

So for the first time, I made something!!!! Big smile


But otherwise I don't know what to do with the thing other than make it a hangar queen. I hardly even fly Gallente. that it can hold 6 light drones is awesome to me as I am up to all 5s on drone skills, but the CPU of the ship is in poor shape so drone enhancement modules take up a lot of CPU. Same goes for drone rigs and the CPU penalty.

For a week I was using it as a (don't laugh) exploration ship, quite adept at hacking, salvaging, and analyzing while the drones take care of the baddies. But it's back in the hanger now.

One thing it has going for it is that it looks, even with the bad camo and the removal of that flashing blue light (pox on CCP for that) it's what every Gallente frigate should be in attitude.

So, what are good fits for this thing? I have a lot of faction and deadspace goodies from my exploration endeavors, and so perhaps with your help we can make this one heck of a frig.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Biced
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-14 09:06:14 UTC
good fit for exploration or what?
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#3 - 2012-01-14 09:07:40 UTC
It all depends on what you want to do with it and where. Low sec pvp, 0.0 pvp, perhaps more exploration etc etc. until we know what you want to do with it it's impossible to give solid advice.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#4 - 2012-01-14 09:13:01 UTC
Biced wrote:
good fit for exploration or what?


Use of the comet for exploration was merely for entertainment purposes. Think about this:

Highs:
One probe launcher
One cloak
One salvager

Mids:
MWD
Hack Module
Arch Module

Lows
Assorted Armor mods


With that there is little CPU left to put in drone mods unless you give in to a CPU upgrade in the lows.

So at best you have three drones fielded, and that is to keep the NPCs distracted while you go for the loot.

Doable?

Yes, I did it for a week. Brought in some pretty good loot.

But I was also able to do the same thing with a Minmatar Probe frigate (it has a drone bay).

I could reckon that if I wanted to use a ship of such expense for exploration, with my drone skills, an Ishkur might be the ticket because the drone bandwidth makes 5 small drones possible.


So if using a ship entirely for a role of which it was not intended was deemed a crime, I would be on death row.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#5 - 2012-01-14 09:15:01 UTC
Vachir Khan wrote:
It all depends on what you want to do with it and where. Low sec pvp, 0.0 pvp, perhaps more exploration etc etc. until we know what you want to do with it it's impossible to give solid advice.



That's the problem, I don't know what to do with it, and I am open to all kinds of suggestions. I expect to fit it accordingly to a specific role, and keep the ship on hand for when the need arises. I do everything from missions, to 0.0 roams, exploration in WH and 0.0, high sec activities, and live events when they occur. Hangar space is free so I'm not worried about just keeping it around.

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J Kunjeh
#6 - 2012-01-14 09:18:35 UTC
This is the fit I use for Lolsec roams/scouting:

High:
Light Neutron Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter S)
Light Neutron Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter S)
Small Nosferatu II

Med:
1mn MWD II
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor II

Low:
Mag Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Rigs:
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

Drones:
Warrior I (x3)
Hobgoblin I (x3)

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 

Biced
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-14 09:30:21 UTC
J Kunjeh wrote:
This is the fit I use for Lolsec roams/scouting:

High:
Light Neutron Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter S)
Light Neutron Blaster II (Caldari Navy Antimatter S)
Small Nosferatu II

Med:
1mn MWD II
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor II

Low:
Mag Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Rigs:
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

Drones:
Warrior I (x3)
Hobgoblin I (x3)


didnt know the make t2 meta 4 webs hehe
trimarks w/o a plate is abit pointless imo
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-01-14 14:37:43 UTC
I acquired one the other day, so I did some EFT warrior'ing

[Federation Navy Comet, Tackle]

Damage Control II
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler

Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


Warrior II x3
Hornet EC-300 x3

Rigs and Drones are up for debate, I guess.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2012-01-14 19:54:54 UTC
Frank Millar wrote:
I acquired one the other day, so I did some EFT warrior'ing

[Federation Navy Comet, Tackle]

Damage Control II
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler

Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


Warrior II x3
Hornet EC-300 x3

Rigs and Drones are up for debate, I guess.




What kind of speed do you get with that?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Green Beans
R and J Inc.
#10 - 2012-01-15 06:51:02 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer/quote wrote:





So if using a ship entirely for a role of which it was not intended was deemed a crime, I would be on death row.


I took a lot of crap for using a Cynabal and Vigilant for PvE purposes! Big smile

This line for rent! YOUR AD HERE!

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2012-01-15 08:24:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Shield version is fast and does crazy dps:

[Federation Navy Comet, Justice]

Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x3
Hornet EC-300 x3



Armor version is not far behind with dps, and is active with a NOS:

[Federation Navy Comet, Judge]

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters

Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Coreli C-Type Small Armor Repairer

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x3
Hornet EC-300 x3

You'll need a grid implant for the shield fit even with AWU5. Keep Null in cargo and go to ball, it's a great ship that can take on any other frigate.

.

Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-15 09:02:28 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


What kind of speed do you get with that?

According to EFT, with my skills, 3581 m/s. A shield fit (like the above post) is probably faster.

Cap stable at 70% with the repper off (which I'd only be using for emergency repairs or inbetween engagements), so I'm not sure about the NOS as well.
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-15 11:37:25 UTC
I used something like this for a while, less DPS but can avoid scram/neut range

[Federation Navy Comet, Solo Comet]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2012-01-16 00:22:35 UTC
I would have guessed that the Comet favored an armor tank because of the 4 lows. Is this incorrect?


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-01-16 03:13:14 UTC  |  Edited by: VKhaun Vex
If you'll take my two statist cents as a person of low experience but an affection for frigs, I think the Comet looks best as balls to the wall DPS.

Other frigs may well shoot at your drones before trying to kill you which gives you some indirect defense, and a DCU II goes a long way on such an even spread of defenses where your major shield hole is your armor's strength, and your armor hole is your shield strength, and you have a decent amount of structure. Use an overdrive injector for speed since it has no drawback to EHP.

The Comet bonuses also mesh with Void S very well. Tracking is a net gain, and optimal + lower optimal penalty is a gain. In fact you do better with Void S, than a non-tracking bonus ship would with CN Antimatter S, and with the right drones for the target you're pushing Daredevil DPS.

Damage Control II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Overdrive Injector System II

1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
(Adjust mids as you like and your wallet allows I just used T2's to show roomy fitting.)

Light Neutron Blaster II (1.9+1.6 w/Void S)
Light Neutron Blaster II (1.9+1.6 w/Void S)
Offline Salvager / Empty / Neut or Nos with lots of faction mids for CPU.

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
50 calibration - as you see fit.

325 unheated w/ Warrior II's
377 heated w/ Hobgoblin II's.
3,891 m/s

Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch

Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#16 - 2012-01-16 11:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Wacktopia
I've used the MWD + Rails fit, or similar, that Atticus posted with some success. Here's a dual-prop fit if you want to go for close-in fights. Gets about 250 dps maxed out and a bit less if you want to switch to CNAM and get the improved tracking.

[Federation Navy Comet, Blomet]

Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Small Armor Repairer II
N-Type Adaptive Nano Membrane I

Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Warrior II x3
Hobgoblin II x3

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#17 - 2012-01-16 16:11:05 UTC
I said I am bad at fitting ships - the DPS I am seeing is better than some of my best battle cruisers. Oops

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