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So when are they going to nerf carriers?
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Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#1 - 2016-05-25 16:51:44 UTC
There aint much to this post would just like to know when the carriers are to be nerfed.

As it is now they are destroying smaller roaming gangs and solo pvp.

ATM a carrier can insta lock and insta blab anything on grid thats cruiser sized or below, it dossent matter that u are a ceptor going 7000 ms sec in a 30km orbit or a tanked tec 3 dessie. U can even two hit an active tanked eos.

Put a large bubble on a gate and sit 80,000 km off it in a carrier and insta **** that comes thru, its just rather OP atm.

They might be balanced for big null sec fight but they are destroying small gang and solo pvp in smaller regions where they are dropped on everything and anything.

Again, i like the interface and some of the things u can do with the new caps but as it stands the carrier is ruining content by denying fights all over new eden, so, when is it going to be fixed?
Galaxxis
The Regency
The Monarchy
#2 - 2016-05-25 16:56:30 UTC
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
There aint much to this post would just like to know when the carriers are to be nerfed.

As it is now they are destroying smaller roaming gangs and solo pvp.

ATM a carrier can insta lock and insta blab anything on grid thats cruiser sized or below, it dossent matter that u are a ceptor going 7000 ms sec in a 30km orbit or a tanked tec 3 dessie. U can even two hit an active tanked eos.

Put a large bubble on a gate and sit 80,000 km off it in a carrier and insta **** that comes thru, its just rather OP atm.

They might be balanced for big null sec fight but they are destroying small gang and solo pvp in smaller regions where they are dropped on everything and anything.

Again, i like the interface and some of the things u can do with the new caps but as it stands the carrier is ruining content by denying fights all over new eden, so, when is it going to be fixed?


Oh look, another crybaby whining that his squirrel fart "fleet" can no longer easily take down a capital ship.
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#3 - 2016-05-25 16:59:58 UTC
Not really, im complaining about the fact that everything has a cyno nowadays and because of that cyno no fleet of 8 peeps or less can roam with the intent of having fun.

Whoever has cap supperiority in a region will use those caps to kill every small gang they see by dropping on them and there is no counter to it. I dont mind being blobbed, i often solo pvp but i do mind not being able to counter what an enemy does
Lisbeth Riraille
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-05-25 17:10:01 UTC
I thought Eve was supposed to be rick-paper-scissors. What's the scissors to whatever the OPs conplaining about?
Imalia Bloodlines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-05-25 17:22:51 UTC
A small gang will always find good fights. And avoid carriers.
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#6 - 2016-05-25 17:25:04 UTC
Imalia Bloodlines wrote:
A small gang will always find good fights. And avoid carriers.


How can u avoid a cynoed in carrier with the locking speed of an interceptor and enough alpha to take out a plated cruiser
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-05-25 17:25:13 UTC
Lisbeth Riraille wrote:
I thought Eve was supposed to be rick-paper-scissors. What's the scissors to whatever the OPs conplaining about?


More rocks.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Gregor Regulus
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2016-05-25 17:27:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Regulus
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Imalia Bloodlines wrote:
A small gang will always find good fights. And avoid carriers.


How can u avoid a cynoed in carrier with the locking speed of an interceptor and enough alpha to take out a plated cruiser


you cant if you're pointed. The same way you wouldn't be able to avoid a couple of black ops. You took the bait.
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#9 - 2016-05-25 17:27:47 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Lisbeth Riraille wrote:
I thought Eve was supposed to be rick-paper-scissors. What's the scissors to whatever the OPs conplaining about?


More rocks.


Invalid argument

Im stating that small gangs and solo pvp'ers have no chance in this meta and your responds is bring more peeps? then it aint really a small gang or solo pvp.
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#10 - 2016-05-25 17:30:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivelios d'Sanquine
Gregor Regulus wrote:
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Imalia Bloodlines wrote:
A small gang will always find good fights. And avoid carriers.


How can u avoid a cynoed in carrier with the locking speed of an interceptor and enough alpha to take out a plated cruiser


you cant if you're pointed. The same way you wouldn't be able to avoid a couple of black ops. You took the bait.


But that means not fighting anything. u cant even kite due to the alpha of the carrier. We are not talking drake cyno bait here, anything will do as long as the cyno is lit

EDDIT: blackops cant aplha u off the grid, they usually need a cov ops cyno to jump too unless u are prepared to have the "bait" sitting there for a long time and they are not well tanked.
Gregor Regulus
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-05-25 17:34:22 UTC
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Gregor Regulus wrote:
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Imalia Bloodlines wrote:
A small gang will always find good fights. And avoid carriers.


How can u avoid a cynoed in carrier with the locking speed of an interceptor and enough alpha to take out a plated cruiser


you cant if you're pointed. The same way you wouldn't be able to avoid a couple of black ops. You took the bait.


But that means not fighting anything. u cant even kite due to the alpha of the carrier. We are not talking drake cyno bait here, anything will do as long as the cyno is lit

EDDIT: blackops cant aplha u off the grid, they usually need a cov ops cyno to jump too unless u are prepared to have the "bait" sitting there for a long time and they are not well tanked.

You're acting like hot dropping is something new. It's just that carriers became good hot dropping platforms after the patch . No matter what comes through the cyno your probability to survive has always been very low.
Galaxxis
The Regency
The Monarchy
#12 - 2016-05-25 17:35:34 UTC
Lisbeth Riraille wrote:
I thought Eve was supposed to be rick-paper-scissors. What's the scissors to whatever the OPs conplaining about?


More scissors. Scissors cut paper. Scissors stab Rick in the face. Scissors always win!
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#13 - 2016-05-25 17:39:33 UTC
Gregor Regulus wrote:

You're acting like hot dropping is something new. It's just that carriers became good hot dropping platforms after the patch . No matter what comes through the cyno your probability to survive has always been very low.


U clearly have not been on the receiving end of this, nor have u done it after the patch so let me try to explain it to u.

before the patch if u got dropped u could try to disengage, usually with a kity setup u would make it out and with a tanky ship u could wait a minut before takeing a gate, this is no longer and option.

The carrier has a locking speed of an interceptor, the tracking of small autocannons and the alpha of a few tornadoes. There is no counter to this for a small gang or a solo pilot, u are dead. What this means is that the alliance with most caps in a region will use this tactic vs other in the region resulting in less fights because no one is willing to take a fight due to the carrier threat.

This means less content for everyone
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#14 - 2016-05-25 17:40:48 UTC
Galaxxis wrote:
Lisbeth Riraille wrote:
I thought Eve was supposed to be rick-paper-scissors. What's the scissors to whatever the OPs conplaining about?


More scissors. Scissors cut paper. Scissors stab Rick in the face. Scissors always win!


In chase u missed let me re-post:


Invalid argument

Im stating that small gangs and solo pvp'ers have no chance in this meta and your responds is bring more peeps? then it aint really a small gang or solo pvp.
Gregor Regulus
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-05-25 17:50:46 UTC
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Gregor Regulus wrote:

You're acting like hot dropping is something new. It's just that carriers became good hot dropping platforms after the patch . No matter what comes through the cyno your probability to survive has always been very low.


U clearly have not been on the receiving end of this, nor have u done it after the patch so let me try to explain it to u.

before the patch if u got dropped u could try to disengage, usually with a kity setup u would make it out and with a tanky ship u could wait a minut before takeing a gate, this is no longer and option.

The carrier has a locking speed of an interceptor, the tracking of small autocannons and the alpha of a few tornadoes. There is no counter to this for a small gang or a solo pilot, u are dead. What this means is that the alliance with most caps in a region will use this tactic vs other in the region resulting in less fights because no one is willing to take a fight due to the carrier threat.

This means less content for everyone


neither have you judging from your kb.
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-05-25 17:53:51 UTC
hard the **** up man and stop crying like a baby.
unsub or keep playing. just stop crying :)

but in general... hard the **** up (hope it's written like this, english is not my first language)
Cool

EVE is not and won't ever be fair.
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#17 - 2016-05-25 17:54:43 UTC
Gregor Regulus wrote:
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Gregor Regulus wrote:

You're acting like hot dropping is something new. It's just that carriers became good hot dropping platforms after the patch . No matter what comes through the cyno your probability to survive has always been very low.


U clearly have not been on the receiving end of this, nor have u done it after the patch so let me try to explain it to u.

before the patch if u got dropped u could try to disengage, usually with a kity setup u would make it out and with a tanky ship u could wait a minut before takeing a gate, this is no longer and option.

The carrier has a locking speed of an interceptor, the tracking of small autocannons and the alpha of a few tornadoes. There is no counter to this for a small gang or a solo pilot, u are dead. What this means is that the alliance with most caps in a region will use this tactic vs other in the region resulting in less fights because no one is willing to take a fight due to the carrier threat.

This means less content for everyone


neither have you judging from your kb.


Learn to read a killboard if you are to be using them when arguing your point
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#18 - 2016-05-25 17:55:37 UTC
Soel Reit wrote:
hard the **** up man and stop crying like a baby.
unsub or keep playing. just stop crying :)

but in general... hard the **** up (hope it's written like this, english is not my first language)
Cool

EVE is not and won't ever be fair.


again u are missing the point

as they are now carriers are denying content, there is less fights because of them and thus less content
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#19 - 2016-05-25 17:58:38 UTC
Ivelios d'Sanquine wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Lisbeth Riraille wrote:
I thought Eve was supposed to be rick-paper-scissors. What's the scissors to whatever the OPs conplaining about?


More rocks.


Invalid argument

Im stating that small gangs and solo pvp'ers have no chance in this meta and your responds is bring more peeps? then it aint really a small gang or solo pvp.


I would have thought taht you need to work out the counter, just running around solo, did you kill a carrier before? In terms of small gang, it's a challenge as it should be, you need to up your game to kill it, running around and taking them down with small stuff is not going to do it.

Are you upset about.people using them on gate camps, well I checked your alliance KB and found a couple of kills with carrier support against you and only one had greater than 0 DPS on it, the rest were killed by sub caps with 0 damage by the fighters.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Ivelios d'Sanquine
Ghetto Warlords
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#20 - 2016-05-25 18:01:18 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


I would have thought taht you need to work out the counter, just running around solo, did you kill a carrier before? In terms of small gang, it's a challenge as it should be, you need to up your game to kill it, running around and taking them down with small stuff is not going to do it.

Are you upset about.people using them on gate camps, well I checked your alliance KB and found a couple of kills with carrier support against you and only one had greater than 0 DPS on it, the rest were killed by sub caps with 0 damage by the fighters.


U must not be looking hard enough, try again.

We have used carriers and have had carriers used against us and this has made fountain a wierd place atm, few rats due to the cloaky campers and few pvp due to the carrier threat. Im not mad at it being hard to kill a carrier, im mad at them being used to insta everything on field within 1 sec of a lit cyno.

They are denying small scale content
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