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Sub-capital neuts have reduced efficiency vs small targets
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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#21 - 2016-05-23 18:43:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Wander Prian
Either it's a bug and CCP needs to fix it, or it's a badly informed change and they need to come clean about it. Either way, someone who has had it happen to them or has done the math needs to make a bug report about it. It's the only way we will know for sure

Wormholer for life.
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#22 - 2016-05-24 06:25:52 UTC
Just want to add my experience w this as well. Just tried engaging an assault frig with my curse using a single T2 Med neut and it took ages to drain his cap. So after the fight I undocked a punisher on my alt and tested. The Curse bonused neut should be draining 360 gj of cap, instead it was draining roughly 100 gj. That's jacked up. Neut ships are in a real hurt because of this. Submitting bug report.

Daemun of Khanid
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#23 - 2016-05-24 07:04:37 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
Submitting bug report.


I'm hoping you're not the first, but thanks for doing it.

Reminder: forums are for discussing things. Bug reports are for broken things. This was not in patch notes; ergo, it is broken.
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#24 - 2016-05-24 07:24:33 UTC
Capacitor battery was on frigate?
Greven Hakiro
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-05-24 11:05:12 UTC
I've opened a bug report for this as well, a few days ago already.
Draciste
Everyone vs Everything
#26 - 2016-05-24 15:25:19 UTC
dont know what is "entityCapacitorModifier"
module stats from EveMon

http://i.imgur.com/oLt7Es0.png

https://twitter.com/Draciste
Greven Hakiro
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2016-05-24 15:46:31 UTC
Draciste wrote:
dont know what is "entityCapacitorModifier"
module stats from EveMon

http://i.imgur.com/oLt7Es0.png


It would really be awesome if we could get some kind of an answer from a dev here.
Is this a feature that wasn't widely announced (considering how none of us heard about it) or a bug?
Draciste
Everyone vs Everything
#28 - 2016-05-24 16:09:44 UTC
Draciste
Everyone vs Everything
#29 - 2016-05-24 16:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Draciste
update:

CCP_Fozzie @ CCP Games
Signature radius reduction for subcapital neuts is a bug and the fix is coming in the next patch.

The entityCapacitorModifier stats listed in evemon control how effective the module is at reducing the active tank of certain NPCs. It has no impact on pvp.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4kufw4/neuts_are_broken_or_its_a_new_stealth_feature/d3hvdz3

https://twitter.com/Draciste
Rawmeat Mary
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#30 - 2016-05-24 21:32:04 UTC
Draciste wrote:
update:

CCP_Fozzie @ CCP Games
Signature radius reduction for subcapital neuts is a bug and the fix is coming in the next patch.

The entityCapacitorModifier stats listed in evemon control how effective the module is at reducing the active tank of certain NPCs. It has no impact on pvp.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4kufw4/neuts_are_broken_or_its_a_new_stealth_feature/d3hvdz3

Thank you.

It is awesome how CCP answer questions on Reddit and don't on their own webiste...

'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.'

Yeah, we're like that.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#31 - 2016-05-24 23:50:19 UTC
Greven Hakiro wrote:
It would really be awesome if we could get some kind of an answer from a dev here.
Is this a feature that wasn't widely announced (considering how none of us heard about it) or a bug?

You mean like other than on Reddit?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
HellGate fr
#32 - 2016-05-25 04:05:02 UTC
When are CCP going to post here ?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#33 - 2016-05-25 04:45:16 UTC
HellGate fr wrote:
When are CCP going to post here ?


They're not. It'll be in patch notes, but I can't imagine we're going to get an official post in this thread.
IBIS BANDIT MASTER
IBIS BANDIT MASTERS
#34 - 2016-05-25 17:09:38 UTC
couple of small patches so far since, still no word What?
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#35 - 2016-05-26 19:21:37 UTC
Patch notes are up for the 31st and no mention of neut fix....Evil

Daemun of Khanid
Grease PaYN
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2016-05-27 04:11:48 UTC
I tested a t2 small neut against my alt in an atron, 18 cap gone instead of 55.

ccp?
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#37 - 2016-05-27 15:41:47 UTC
Patch notes for the 31st have been updated to include the fix for this. Lol

Daemun of Khanid
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#38 - 2016-05-27 16:59:04 UTC
Patch notes for the 31st wrote:
Energy Neutralizers for sub-capitals are no longer penalized by the signature radius of the target.

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IBIS BANDIT MASTER
IBIS BANDIT MASTERS
#39 - 2016-05-27 18:05:00 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Patch notes for the 31st wrote:
Energy Neutralizers for sub-capitals are no longer penalized by the signature radius of the target.



\o/
Draciste
Everyone vs Everything
#40 - 2016-05-29 22:36:17 UTC
ok, definitely not the first "next" patch, but still better late than never

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