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Dear CCP, consider changing daily reset to downtime instead after 22h
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Matt Faithbringer
YOLO so no taxes please
#1 - 2016-05-25 14:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Matt Faithbringer
There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping.

What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day.

Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes.

discuss.
Raging Bull Unchained
Signal Lost
#2 - 2016-05-25 14:29:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Raging Bull Unchained
I myself plan to do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).
Matt Faithbringer
YOLO so no taxes please
#3 - 2016-05-25 14:37:45 UTC
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2016-05-25 14:40:52 UTC
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me


So you miss a day, who cares?

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Raging Bull Unchained
Signal Lost
#5 - 2016-05-25 14:46:58 UTC
Ah ok. Yeah, i missed that point.
Do them when you came back from work?
That´s how i do it. Though i might have that "problem" when i once do them late and want to go to bad early. I´d just "miss" out then.

Poor ccp. They do the 22h timer so it doens´t get later and later and still it´s not right :P
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-05-25 15:19:58 UTC
Yay! First kill-a-rat drama! Lol

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-05-25 15:30:41 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
Yay! First kill-a-rat drama! Lol


It was fully expected. Hell I had that subject in mind when thinking of what could be the first one.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#8 - 2016-05-25 15:31:15 UTC
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me

Skip Sunday?

Dum Spiro Spero
Matt Faithbringer
YOLO so no taxes please
#9 - 2016-05-25 15:36:43 UTC
KaarBaak wrote:
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me

Skip Sunday?


goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-05-25 15:40:32 UTC
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
KaarBaak wrote:
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me

Skip Sunday?


goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily


Stop feeling forced to do something 100% optional.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2016-05-25 15:40:32 UTC
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping.

What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day.

Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes.

discuss.


CCP should never go about making changes because one or two players have personal scheduling conflicts. If they did , down time would be 10 hours per day 4 days per week because that's when I'm at work and EVE shouldn't even be up while I'm at work lol.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#12 - 2016-05-25 15:44:08 UTC
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
KaarBaak wrote:
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me

Skip Sunday?


goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily

I think I found your problem.

Dum Spiro Spero
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-05-25 16:35:33 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
KaarBaak wrote:
Matt Faithbringer wrote:
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h.
People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.

And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh.
You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).


I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me

Skip Sunday?


goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily


Stop feeling forced to do something 100% optional.



Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#14 - 2016-05-25 16:39:49 UTC
This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE.

How did you Veterans start?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#15 - 2016-05-25 16:57:03 UTC
Let me guess, you probably live in Australia, right?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#16 - 2016-05-25 17:20:26 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
[quote=Frostys Virpio]

Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout.

I could tell you how to make it weekly: Login and kill an NPC pirate once per week.

Your complaint seems akin to:
"I can't accumulate ore every day unless I login every day."
"I can't kill other players every day unless I login every day."

It's simply another game mechanic that you can participate in or not. You'll be rewarded accordingly.

Dum Spiro Spero
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#17 - 2016-05-25 18:15:14 UTC
Oh look, we got the first "daily chore" victim.

Evil RatKid
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#18 - 2016-05-25 18:47:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne
ShahFluffers wrote:
This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE.


Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll.

"goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily"

To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying Attention troll Attention
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#19 - 2016-05-25 19:04:56 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE.


Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll.

"goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily"

To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying Attention troll Attention

Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too.

How did you Veterans start?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-05-25 19:11:04 UTC
I agree with the OP.

The timer should renew with server reset at Down Time.




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