Intergalactic Summit

We're presently entering the second week of this humanitarian crisis. In the scheme of things, it's perhaps a small one, but, then, the scheme of things is awfully, awfully large.

If you walk through a crowd of them, thirty-three thousand people is ... a lot.

Fortunately, the response has been enormous. We believe we now have the staff and resources needed to aid and comfort those in our care, and to pursue an effective treatment with all possible diligence.

At this time, I'd like to offer our thanks to all those who've made the effort to aid us with materials and personnel: PIE, Sanxing, Alexylva Paradox, pilot Literia of The OSS, and my fellow members of SFRIM. Special thanks and condolences to CVA, for loss suffered on our behalf.

Special thanks also to those who, for whatever reason, cannot here be named.

We understand that in places those aiding us have been constrained to only providing aid where conscience allowed. We exist in a universe we share with our fellow human beings, but also of deep divisions. Perhaps no one in this world has as much reason as the Amarr to understand the power and importance of a deeply-held belief. No one should dishonor charity by demanding that it be provided beyond ethical or moral limits.

At this point, we have the resources in place to produce perhaps the best odds for success we could have hoped for. To all who made this possible, in however large or small a way:

Thank you all.

Really? Then I get the feeling I've been lied to on a number of crucial occasions. I'll be looking into this one.

(--Turns out, it works out to a matter of logic, rather than legality. It does appear to be the case that if one eschews all Empire and cultural laws about what to do in a given circumstance, Capsuleers are theoretically 'allowed' to do whatever we want. However, if one is to work within a system, the laws apply as they would.)

I am in full agreement with Sanxing's stance on the matter. We are heavily invested in our own relief efforts in Lirsautton, and have little desire to defray the labor costs of slave-owning Holders. Since we are neither the organization who recovered the victims, nor the only organization involved in caring for them, we are free to limit what we do. Nobody in this cluster has unlimited resources, and we all must choose how to spend our limited (if often great) wealth. Nonetheless, we agreed to help not just any Jin Mei recovered, but all citizens of the Federation and of our ally the Republic.

I respect the work that SFRIM is doing, and am humbled by both the opportunity to assist in this crisis and by their courtesy and gratitude towards us for doing so, even in such a small way.

No apologies needed, you are trying to help at least 129 people, this is good enough and I am thankful for that.

The thing is you can not be certain what will happen with other people afterwards, they may end up under care of a neglecting Holder they may not.

So I do have to ask what if some out of those 129 people would become a crew members on a combat capsuleer vessel, would you not help them then? They may get killed the same day they leave your care. What if some of those 129 people are criminals or loyal to one of the major pirate groups, what about that kind of people? They may get back to their shady ways afterwards. There is no end to such "what ifs" and "mays".


So the decision was made on purely economic basis? Don't get me wrong I'm not judging, 33,000 is indeed not a small number of people.

As Wei Chemineau has already expressed a personal condolence, please allow me to add Sanxing's formal condolences to those families of the brave individuals who gave themselves to serve others. We are indeed quite relieved to hear that the Societas is recieving aid from multiple quarters, especially from those organisations that are more easily able to offer unlimited aid given their synergy of morals with the Societas.



Sanxing like most, if not all, SCC registered corporations has a dozen or more press releases per day as transparency is important in any business' operation in order to ensure trust and good faith. As we understand that capsuleers have difficulty accessing the GalNet when connected to the pod or via their NeoCom we reproduce here on the IGS only those press releases we believe are of relevance or interest to capsuleers. Again our commitment to transparency is not limited to baseliners, we want to ensure that capsuleers too understand the purpose and actions of Sanxing.



Nushi Jenneth, as always a civil and polite voice, how very welcome. We are glad to hear that the Societas is now in a position to offer the very best chance to all suffering as a result of all the aid provided. Sanxing will forward on the relevant vitoxin medical data that our research team is presently working on.




Nushi Vess, forgive me but I do not follow this particular part of your comment. Sanxing was never in a position to free any of the slaves included within the 33,000 as the Societas has them within their care and custody. Those we have taken into care are free Federal and Republic citizens will of course be at liberty once they are well once more. As such I am not sure I follow.



Lieutenant Vellum,

I fail to see the point of elucidating that there is an element of the unknown in the future, yes this is something we all acknowledge. In order to act and not be paralysed by the sheer multiplicity of possiblities then we must make such judgments as our morals demand and then act, or else what? We allow others to dictate for us the future and our actions in the present? Or take no actions whatsoever and stand by as idle observers of the gross injustice of the present? Sanxing is a principled organisation, a humanitarian one, and with those principles in mind we undertook what we believed to be the most right course of action: helping how we could while not betraying our commitment to the fundamental dignities of the Federal Charter.

Our decision was also influenced naturally by pragmatic matters, we are in the midst of a planet-wide relief effort, and consequently the majority of our resources and staff are directed to helping the billions impacted by a civil war.

Sang Do Xun Yu
Taishou of Sanxing

If people aren't given the choice of what they want to do with their lives then this is not a charity.

What's the issue here?

If the Amarr want to free the people under legal guidelines, Sinjin gave them a legal way out. The 33,000 were the remnants of House Mokk and now that they've been recovered, we're freeing them. Nauplius stole them from us. Prove me wrong. I dare ya. I double dare ya. Once a slave crosses over to the State, Republic or Federation they're technically free anyway. There. Legal **** solved. But as was mentioned, being Capsuleers, we really don't need the legal way out. The decision is totally up to the people who are holding them.

Legal option #2 would be to sell them to us (I think 1 ISK per head is fair) and we'll free them and then donate the proceeds to charity. Again, not needed. Transport all the people to Mr. Yu and their status as slaves becomes a null issue.

If certain Amarr want to keep them as slaves anyway, what does that tell you about their intentions and what kind of people they are under the skin?

Up to you Amarr. Free these people and prove you actually care about their well-being. Keep them classified as slaves, and you're basically continuing Nauplius' abusive work for him.

Of course, since Naup is still listed as an active pilot for Hoi Andrapodistai, maybe he's sitting back and laughing at the dilemma this has caused? Maybe he's been playing you for fools? 33,000 slaves is a drop in the bucket for him. It's a small price to pay to prove that the Societa, PIE, and CVA are using the Amarr religion and legal system to further their own ends.

You have no idea how laws and people work, don't you?

Actually, yes I do.

I also know first-hand what slavery is like in the Empire.





Exactly my point.

All of which we are very much experienced at. Thirty-three thousand? Try two hundred and fifty thousand, and that's just what the facilities I have been part of setting up and maintaining. If all the freedom fighters who have had years and years of experience with this, maintaining and cultivating transport, health and treatment staff, reintroduction to society training, mental welfare programs and so on came together... thirty three thousand would barely make a dent in our resources.

This isn't something new or unprecedented. Slaves have been treated in atrocious and horrifying ways by Imperials and criminals for a very long time, and we've gotten extremely good at providing for those victims over time.

We've offered this sort of assistance before, but it just wouldn't look very good on the IGS, would it? Naw, let's just funnel these victims back into the system that landed them into their terror in the first place. That'll solve matters in a satisfactory manner. What SFRIM and Aria Jenneth here has done is very clear. They've taken thirty three thousand men and women who no nation in New Eden have any claim over, and enslaved them at the point in time they were the most vulnerable.

Slavers. Feh.

I don't know why I've wasted my time on them. It's not like it's the first time they've chosen to inflict more suffering rather than give their victims a chance.