Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Greetings,

What if CCP gave us toolkit to create mission pocket and ability to populate it with NPC rats. We would have ability to fit rat ships and be creative about rat fleet gangs. It would then allow us to upload to "CCP Central" where developers try out mission and either approve it or disregard it. Approved mission would then move to Testing server where its tested by players and if everything shows OK, mission appears on Main server.

Mission makers would also be able to chose which agent gives mission and even write short description of it.

Reward would be standard mission reward we currently have as my goal is to increase mission variety in EVE and make it less "Oh its this mission again...". But if CCP or someone has better suggestion then go ahead.


So what kind of missions? Well, if we go really creative then the more CCP gives us tools the more different missions we can create. For example; "Capture and secure pirate mining barge, commander!" Player is tasked to tackle pirate veldspar miner and defeat pirate combat ships that warp in as soon as barge is tackled. Barge will try to warp off if tackle ends. This will give player two things to worry about and players can Indirectly experience important feat (Tackling) that is big part of this game.

That was just one example of what community can create and communities in gaming are very creative if developers allow it to be so. Some top games are community created and some games are still played by thousands of players just because developers have given communities to create more content for themselves.

PS: Please remember this is strictly about EVE Online missions. I am very aware that in EVE players create their own content and have done so in most wonderful ways.

Thank you.

EVE Online isnt massive in terms of player base and I doubt every single player is going to play with toolkit. There is also other ways to limit. For example one can upload single mission from your account and until its approved or disregarded you cannot upload another. CCP also does not need to be fast with mission approval. It can come out in packs during expansions.

This way CCP would not need to use time and resources on making their own missions all the time. Let sandbox be sandbox and let players create missions.

Needless to say one can also regulate "spam". CCP can give players hidden raiting that only they see. If player keep spamming nonsense missions and is trolling then CCP can just instantly disregard player. Actions and consequences.

Well if we have to wait for CCP to do it, with all that they have to do for now, it will need years before any new mission (not burner at least) comes into the game.

I'm all for it, but the toolkit will need to be easy to create (created by players maybe ?), CPP will probably not have any time to spend people for that I think.

I really like the example given with the target to tackle, and I'm sure we could easily find other interesting ideas to make missions more fun to do, maybe more difficult if we could do burner-like missions.

This toolkit will need to show deadspace pocket with arrangement and timers for NPC and the compositions of rats, with a way to check the total bounty for npc and any DPS amount that rats can dish in each wave, to make sure it stays in line with the rest.

Like the art tools they thought about releasing to the playerbase, the mission tool kit will be too complex for the average joe to use. It'd have to be dumbed down at least. On top of that this tool has to be maintained. Updates, bug checks etc it's no small amount of work and it's not a one off job either.

Look at how many players post features and ideas. Plenty of players will want to post their missions and it will take a lot of time to quality check them all. Why pay someone to trawl through hundreds of submissions to only get a few good ones when you can pay someone to make 10 quality missions in a fraction of the time?

'let sandbox be sandbox and let players create missions'
Map editor =\= sandbox.

CCP and the scientists thought that the first batch of pictures for Project Discovery would last for months, yet it only lasted 3 weeks. You can create L1 missions, even good ones, in 5-10 minutes and spam the process with them.

And when it comes to ratings, we all know how useless and outright missleading and missrepresenting ratings can be if you "annoy" the wrong kind of of people. Certain groups can rate brigade their members to push certain people out of the process. With such a rating system in place, you create more work for CCP than you would remove.

That aside, I do not agree that players should create the content we pay for to use. We pay CCP to do their job, not to offload their job onto us. Unless players who create these things and get them into the game receive a serious reduction to their subscription, the idea introduces a very irritating slippery-slope.

And put these glassed away, they make you look like a dense goof.

this had nothing to do with why it wasn't realest. CCP selling skins is why it was not released

could try idk... not running missions

considering how missions tend to cause ppl to move away from the social aspect of the game more than any other activity (except maybe station trading) encouraging more ppl to do them may not be the best goal

Name one.

I've been gaming for 30 years, and I can't think of a single instance in which this has occurred. Granted, it is 4:40 in the morning, and I just got up, but still.....

Player created missions could be a way to increase standings with a corporation especially in Null Space where the Pilot would have access to a Corporation or Alliance Mission Office. The Pilot would be able to conduct one of two mission types either being PvE or PvP that would reside within the normal mission parameters.

PvP Missions would be slightly different though and would have higher rewards because the missions would involve for example war decing a corporation or alliance. The Pilot would then attack the enemy corporations freighter or transport assets in any region where the transports are found.

The opposite side of the coin for the mission above is that the Pilot transporting goods for the corporation or alliance as a Neutral would be required to transport the cargo from point A to point B in a certain time frame.

PvP missions would require each player to carry a Token for the mission that would be presented at the end of the mission for payment and standings increase. The Token would be an insurance agreement between the Pilot and the corporation or alliance that if the mission failed then the issuing corporation or alliance would get to keep the Token Insurance. If the mission is a success then the Token Insurance is paid back to the Pilot plus the rewards established by the corporation or alliance.

If a Token falls into third party hands then it can be returned to the issuing corporation or alliance for a bounty fee assigned to the Token by the issuing corporation or alliance. The only way for the issuing corporation or alliance to receive their insurance payout is if the Token is insured to 75% of the value of the Token Insurance itself. If a Token is insured at 10,000,000 ISK the issuing corporation or alliance would have to place a bounty fee of 750,000 ISK to have the Token returned to them.