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Reason to be the good guy?
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#41 - 2016-05-18 07:56:43 UTC
I am always a paragon of justice and fairness in everything I do.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2016-05-18 08:38:25 UTC
So... what exactly is a good guy?

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2016-05-18 08:46:57 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.

That's something you can't buy with ISK.


Surely, the best ship is HARDship? It is a more reliable companion in Life and in EVE, for it never lies or cheats and its benefits are universally available - if you have the temperament and ability to profit from them.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#44 - 2016-05-18 09:15:27 UTC
But without your friendship for reps, how will you be able to tank the DPS of the hardship long enough to extract the ransom.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#45 - 2016-05-18 09:28:47 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.

That's something you can't buy with ISK.


Surely, the best ship is HARDship? It is a more reliable companion in Life and in EVE, for it never lies or cheats and its benefits are universally available - if you have the temperament and ability to profit from them.



So can we have all your stuffz so that you can enjoy hardship properly?

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#46 - 2016-05-18 18:25:23 UTC
So last night I helped a freighter through the gank pipeline.

With a ganking alt.

I'll leave it up to you people to figure out what I mean by "help".


You see why I like this game so much.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2016-05-18 19:27:46 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
But without your friendship for reps, how will you be able to tank the DPS of the hardship long enough to extract the ransom.


Er..... HARD 2nd a/c Repper/Booster/Links


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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2016-05-18 19:29:39 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.

That's something you can't buy with ISK.


Surely, the best ship is HARDship? It is a more reliable companion in Life and in EVE, for it never lies or cheats and its benefits are universally available - if you have the temperament and ability to profit from them.



So can we have all your stuffz so that you can enjoy hardship properly?


I'm a true HARD player, Sir; I don't have 'stuffz'

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#49 - 2016-05-18 19:35:02 UTC
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
But without your friendship for reps, how will you be able to tank the DPS of the hardship long enough to extract the ransom.


Er..... HARD 2nd a/c Repper/Booster/Links



mine sounded like 800% better
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2016-05-20 08:39:06 UTC
If I prevent you from doing evil deeds by applying disproportionate amounts of ECM, thereby saving the lives of friends who came through the cyno alongside me... does that not truly make me the best buddy you ever had?
Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#51 - 2016-05-20 12:26:21 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
So... what exactly is a good guy?


Something Janitors in space stations clean off of ship hulls.

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Sykaotic
Doomheim
#52 - 2016-05-23 07:11:10 UTC
be good to be bad...
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#53 - 2016-05-23 09:21:08 UTC
maybe because some peoples good nature doesnt allow them to be total scumbags to other players and doesnt make them forget that other players are humans with feelings too. Just a thought.

"Nothing to win" isnt quite true too, blowing up "scumbags" can be very satisfying, I imagine.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2016-05-23 21:30:00 UTC
Sylphy wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
So... what exactly is a good guy?


Something Janitors in space stations clean off of ship hulls.



Then there are plenty of good guys in eve. Cool

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2016-06-01 18:50:36 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I am always a paragon of justice and fairness in everything I do.


Confirming.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Drammie Askold
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#56 - 2016-06-05 16:53:43 UTC
What the **** is a 'moral compass'? What slot does it fit in and what's the CPU requirements?

As the blessed St. Reptilicus said "Some days you can't get a drink on the cuff anyplace."
Thomas en Chasteaux
HighSec Militia
#57 - 2016-06-17 12:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas en Chasteaux
kronlor wrote:

So it makes me question what if any are the benefits to having any sort of moral compass at all in this game?
I just dont see any benefit to being allies with concord, and not being the greatest scumbag possible.
There are grand rewards for those who can scam and steal the best, but nothing for those who play by the rules. The honest good guys i guess have nothing to gain, and everything to lose.


If all that you value in space life,
is the pile of ISK you have accumulated,
and a throne of corpses
surrounded by pixels trophies...

Then of course,
you would see nothing of value in being guided by a moral compass.
Nor would you recognize any value or any reward
for saving someone's clone butt in a time of hopelessness and need.

If ISK is your only measure of self-worth,
then you are simply a mercenary - a soldier of fortune -
whose mark on the timeline of New Eden
will be small and temporary.

For you will have built nothing that lasted,
changed nothing that mattered,
inspired no one to do anything greater.

For those who are guided by better angels, seek out the
Signal Cartel or the High Sec Militia.
Crinnfika
Doomheim
#58 - 2016-06-17 20:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Crinnfika
In the real world being the "good guy" (aka not screwing people over) leads to having good social connections that you can count on in times of need, which generally leads to a higher quality of life and a safer and more stable environment for you and your family to live in.
Civilization was born when humans realized that 2 people working together have more food than 2 people working against each other with the benefits increasing with the more people you had working together.

However in a videogame like eve it's hard to replicate that. In eve things like not starving to death and raising a family are not concerns, and fear of death is less of a thing since dying is only a inconvenience rather than the end of a person's existence.

The other thing is that in gaming violence is often the form of entertainment, whereas in real life violence is painful and really sucky.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2016-06-17 21:16:56 UTC
Crinnfika wrote:
In the real world being the "good guy" (aka not screwing people over) leads to having good social connections that you can count on in times of need, which generally leads to a higher quality of life and a safer and more stable environment for you and your family to live in.


Lol

Counting on people in times of need ... Quality of life ... safe and stable environment ... where do you live??

It is my experience EvE is a lot (and I mean a LOT) more forgiving than real life in terms of for example tax rates, the harm inflicted by a perfectly executed awox or scam, the general tolerance of the playerbase...

In the utopia that is New Eden however, your argument stands.
Glengrant
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2016-06-18 02:19:21 UTC
Anybody who requires rewards to be good is actually a mercenary.

Be a good guy (whatever that means in practice) because you want to - or don't.