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They want more to log in. As soon as you do it with one, they are already accomplishing something. What really has a chance of creating content with this change is to get player to log in. The same player logging in 20 times on alt is not going to generate anything more than if he just logged once. The barrier of entry of getting in the game was already broken so if you were to think "might as well do something since I'm already in", it won;t happen on the 14th alt. As you log in more alts, you will actually probably just say "F this god damn game" mostly because you though of maximizing your SP gain instead of maximizing your enjoyment of the game. Yes SP are cool, yes they can now even be sold but if you just look at that and grind the multiple log ins for every alt account you have, it will of course look like a chore because you are making it a chore.

If you take me and you as example. If I log in once to do it, my single log in is a new one. I might decide to do something or not. On the other hand, From your perspective, the 1st one might be a new log in but the 19 other you make are just repeating steps over and over again. You are not 20 players who might decide to do something else but 1 player who do 20 time the same thing and likely decided if he would do more within at most the first 5 or something like that.

CCP definitely know that a metric ass ton of the log-ins will be ghost log ins by alt account of the very same player. Those are not the one they are looking for because that player logged into the game already. You crossed the barrier they want you to cross on the first one. Doing it 19 more time isn't that likely to change your mind on if you play more or just kill your rat and leave. Chance are you won;t change your mind until the next day when the opportunity will try again. As a player, making you do it more often does not really has that much chance to flip your mind if you had decided you would not play but merely kill a rat for 10k sp and the leave. Back to my case, every single opportunity I do is a brand new log in on a different day. I'm potentially not in the same mood as I was the previous day so a new try makes sense hence why it try to get you to log in every day. The system need player logging in at least once, not character/accounts since those are associated to the same brain who already made up his mind if he wanted to play EVE on that specific day.

It looks like a chore to many people because they don;t see it as a log in that might make them play the game but as a step to getting 10k SP which "need" to be done because SP > all. Of course, a large amount of those player forcing themselves to log in every single alts they have in the name of getting more SP will also be the type of player telling newbies that SP don't matter because of many reasons. Of course, that makes them hypocrite by saying something while they obviously think the opposite but there is not much we can do about that.

500K player base?
Of which around 40K are logged in at the same time for 1 or 2 hours a week, while the average online is again slipping.

Your last comment is my all time Fav - Just Quit - The more that do quit (and there has been a bloody lot since I started playing) the less there is who actually play the game. 18K online - 2300 of whom are in Jita, so scamming or trade alts - Doesn't that just create so much content for a pvp orientated game.

The 500K registered accounts mark was passed several years ago - It refers to "accounts registered" and has absolutely nothing to do with active subscriptions (which are the only ones that count). - Which is far far less.

It would be interesting if CCP showed us the metrics on how many accounts have been created and how many are actively used

And where do skill extractors come from? Or PLEXes that you would need to buy to train up inactive characters? Skill points are indirectly generating income for CCP.

Let's say that 50,000 characters do their daily every day (which doesn't seem unreasonable since people have alt accounts etc...) that would be a total of 15B skill points generated every month from nothing. That's 30,000 injectors equivalent or roughly 150,000$ US every month (provided you buy them in packs of 5).

So much drama, it's incredible.

I personally do not have a problem with giving an incentive/reward to login (although imo eve does not need that), but I feel it is done poorly at the moment. The system as it is feels bad, especially as newer player that is still starving for SP: I feel like I have to get the 10k each day, and I am losing out a lot if I dont. However, I simply do not have time to login every day, which leaves me frustrated. I really enjoyed not having to worry about eve, and you can argue that I will still train, but it is 20% less efficient, and I fully miss out if I do not find time.

Now, a possible solution is to give a login incentive, but avoid frustrating players too much would be to stack the SP reward after completing the daily after a certain number of days with exponentially diminishing returns, as e.g. by the following formula

XP_Total = SUM[i=1->number_of_days] 10000 * efficiency_factor^(i-1)

If you now select e.g. 0.8 as efficiency factor, you get:

Day 1: 10000
Day 2: 18000
Day 3: 24400
Day 4: 29520
Day 5: 33616
Day 10: 44631
Day 50: 49999
Day 100: 50000

Reddit discussion link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4k7dkx/ccplease_make_the_sp_reward_from_dailies_stack_up/

In 2013 EVE had 500k SUBBED accounts (google 'EVE 500k subs'), not registered. The highest daily concurrent user number is generally regarded as 10% of the active player base (game industry wide), so 40k currently estimates around 400k subbed accounts.

Guess this means I'm done here. Goodbye EVE.

lol

If the problem was that activity was lost from changing the 24hr skill queue, and the goal is to get back the activity caused by the 24h skill queue why is the answer not just...

....reintroduce the 24h skillqueue?

Because that would be pants-on-head stupid.