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john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-05-19 05:49:35 UTC  |  Edited by: john sasha
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Maekchu
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-05-19 05:53:35 UTC
Shoot them in the face when they decloak. Camper removed. Great way to counter your problem.
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#3 - 2016-05-19 05:55:01 UTC
No

Been discussed before and wrong thread.

The counter is already present. You can jump out of system to another.

Cloaky camping exists already as a direct counter to your local channel New Eden wide intelligence tool.

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"

john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-05-19 05:56:35 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Shoot them in the face when they decloak. Camper removed. Great way to counter your problem.

Would be great. ....if they could be scanned down.
Usually they are in a deep safe cloacking up.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-05-19 05:57:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Shoot them in the face when they decloak. Camper removed. Great way to counter your problem.

Would be great. ....if they could be scanned down.
Usually they are in a deep safe cloacking up.

If they are at a deep safe, then they don't pose a threat to you, now do they? You have to be on grid with them in order to get locked and shot.
john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-19 05:59:45 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
No

Been discussed before and wrong thread.

The counter is already present. You can jump out of system to another.

Cloaky camping exists already as a direct counter to your local channel New Eden wide intelligence tool.

I'm new to the forum. Yeah I'll just jump into a system with another cloaky camper in it.
john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-05-19 06:00:49 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

1k dollars yea you can
Maekchu
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-05-19 06:02:22 UTC
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

1k dollars yea you can

I'm pretty sure selling in-game items for IRL money is against the EULA. Should I report this offense?
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#9 - 2016-05-19 06:06:19 UTC
john sasha wrote:
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
No

Been discussed before and wrong thread.

The counter is already present. You can jump out of system to another.

Cloaky camping exists already as a direct counter to your local channel New Eden wide intelligence tool.

I'm new to the forum. Yeah I'll just jump into a system with another cloaky camper in it.



Then I suggest you do your homework before repeating a list of the same old flawed arguments that are going nowhere. Unless local channel is changed you will get no change to cloaking and there are reasons even then why it should not be changed.

Your right to do something in space is only by accepting that there is a risk your ship might be exploded. It is up to you to ensure that does not happen by the use of intelligence, fitting, piloting, backup, location, tactics, etc...

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"

john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-05-19 06:06:44 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

1k dollars yea you can

I'm pretty sure selling in-game items for IRL money is against the EULA. Should I report this offense?

I'm messing with you. I won't quit eve or sell sp. It's just wasting my money when some pos camps and makes it where I won't play. Cause I don't want to lose my ships.
john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-05-19 06:08:45 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
john sasha wrote:
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
No

Been discussed before and wrong thread.

The counter is already present. You can jump out of system to another.

Cloaky camping exists already as a direct counter to your local channel New Eden wide intelligence tool.

I'm new to the forum. Yeah I'll just jump into a system with another cloaky camper in it.



Then I suggest you do your homework before repeating a list of the same old flawed arguments that are going nowhere. Unless local channel is changed you will get no change to cloaking and there are reasons even then why it should not be changed.

Your right to do something in space is only by accepting that there is a risk your ship might be exploded. It is up to you to ensure that does not happen by the use of intelligence, fitting, piloting, backup, location, tactics, etc...

I'd like to play the game. Not sit docked up cause some pos is camping system.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-05-19 06:10:01 UTC
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

1k dollars yea you can

I'm pretty sure selling in-game items for IRL money is against the EULA. Should I report this offense?

I'm messing with you. I won't quit eve or sell sp. It's just wasting my money when some pos camps and makes it where I won't play. Cause I don't want to lose my ships.

Oh... OOOH... You were messing with me? Damn, I totally believed you there for a second. I'm such a goof sometimes. Hyhy...
john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-05-19 06:15:24 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

1k dollars yea you can

I'm pretty sure selling in-game items for IRL money is against the EULA. Should I report this offense?

I'm messing with you. I won't quit eve or sell sp. It's just wasting my money when some pos camps and makes it where I won't play. Cause I don't want to lose my ships.

Oh... OOOH... You were messing with me? Damn, I totally believed you there for a second. I'm such a goof sometimes. Hyhy...

And in this weak the troll strikes back!
Maekchu
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-05-19 06:22:53 UTC
john sasha wrote:
And in this weak the troll strikes back!

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-05-19 06:28:55 UTC
john sasha wrote:
There needs to be a counter to cloaky campers. Like fuel required to cloak. Really tired of not being able to play eve cause a camping cloacker. Please come up with a counter to this problem. Its very easy to forget to pay a sub when I can't play the game.


Unsubbing counters afk cloaking.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

john sasha
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-05-19 06:57:39 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
And in this weak the troll strikes back!

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.

I'm not afraid of cloaky campers id just rather not end up on the kill board and losing my money makers. There needs to be a counter just like there's a counter for the rest of the ships in the game.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#17 - 2016-05-19 07:18:27 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
And in this weak the troll strikes back!

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.


So says a player who operates in cheap ships only, go on get in a Vargur or something like that and show us how real men do it against cloaky AFK campers.


To the OP, I know its got harder with the removal of the watch list, I used to use that to see what the cloaky camper had between his legs so to speak. Best thing you can do is go grab some cheap ships like this troll scrub uses and operate with them, its what I did and it at least means you do something in game.

Without any doubt the most boring real PvP in this game is to be dropped by a Black Ops BS fleet, it is only a marginal step up from hisec ganking especially if generated from an AFK blanket cloaky camper.

I have over the years posted suggestions about this and my favourite is an AFK flag for people away for more than an hour that gets flagged and removed if he does anything with the client. In this thread you saw them say oh his is afk what are you scared of, well when I suggested that, the AFK part suddenly mattered. The thing is that CCP is hoisted by their own petard in terms of the log off to escape combat or being hunted. One will see that a cloaked up Titan being hunted for PL will suddenly have a flag saying not AFK but that is OK if it stops AFK play from being rewarding by stopping people from doing stuff through significant unknown threat based on what can cyno in on you.

I don't like the fuel idea because I often got safe and cloaked up in systems without stations.

There is a AFK cloaky thread on features and ideas but it is filled with trolls like this one, post your suggestion on that. What you could do is de-sub for a couple of months, go and play another game and state your reason as AFK cloaky camping and go to town on people not playing the game having an impact and it is wrong.

You will find players like the troll having a go at people who mine AFK as being lame and the like but they then support AFK cloaky camping, its because they are prize A hyprocites and you are wasting breath and time even engaging with them.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#18 - 2016-05-19 07:22:10 UTC
john sasha wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
And in this weak the troll strikes back!

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.

I'm not afraid of cloaky campers id just rather not end up on the kill board and losing my money makers. There needs to be a counter just like there's a counter for the rest of the ships in the game.


The correct reply is you are not afraid of a cloaky camper, but what he is able to cyno in on you that will kill your major ISK making asset.

The counter is to step down as a group into a fleet of small stuff with your mates and operate like that, I found the cloaky campers hated that...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Maekchu
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-05-19 07:26:19 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
And in this weak the troll strikes back!

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.


So says a player who operates in cheap ships only, go on get in a Vargur or something like that and show us how real men do it against cloaky AFK campers.

So I enjoy solo frigate PvP, what does that have to do with anything? Yes, it is so much more manly to whore on code suicide ganks... Uuuuuuuu... So pro... So much wow... Teach me your ways master.

On a more serious note, I have done quite some ratting in lowsec for tags and encountered my share of cloaky cynoes. Do you want to know how I manage not to get caught? I fly fast ships and just don't get tackled. It's pretty easy...

But yes, it is even easier to come to the forums and whine.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#20 - 2016-05-19 07:29:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Maekchu wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
john sasha wrote:
And in this weak the troll strikes back!

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.


So says a player who operates in cheap ships only, go on get in a Vargur or something like that and show us how real men do it against cloaky AFK campers.

So I enjoy solo frigate PvP, what does that have to do with anything? Yes, it is so much more manly to whore on code suicide ganks... Uuuuuuuu... So pro... So much wow... Teach me your ways master.

On a more serious note, I have done quite some ratting in lowsec for tags and encountered my share of cloaky cynoes. Do you want to know how I manage not to get caught? I fly fast ships and just don't get tackled. It's pretty easy...

But yes, it is even easier to come to the forums and whine.


Until you go use a Vargur to do stuff in low sec you are just a wannabe whiner trying to talk big on the forums, pathetic...

EDIT: In fact lets ask you something very direct, why are you who does the most interesting in your face PvP in the game defending the most lazy PvP in the game, the irony is stunning.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

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