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Nullsec Politics and the T2 market, what's the deal?

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Haffsol
#1 - 2016-05-16 19:37:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Haffsol
I'm probably all wrong but I'm seeing lots of speculation recently in Jita. There are some specific moongoo products that are literally spiking, same with some T2 components and ships too. In the meanwhile, plex is plummeting. I'd have never imagined it would fall south of the 900 M after it hit the 1.2 B and more. It looks to me that the changes in nullsec are the only actual reason for all these instability. So, I'm thinking about stopping my activity for a while and see what's going on, not that I don't like to go fishing afterall. Anything on your radars you guys can share?
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#2 - 2016-05-16 19:52:45 UTC
Haffsol wrote:
I'm probably all wrong but I'm seeing lots of speculation recently in Jita. There are some specific moongoo products that are literally spiking, same with some T2 components and ships too. In the meanwhile, plex is plummeting. I'd have never imagined it would fall south of the 900 M after it hit the 1.2 B and more. It looks to me that the changes in nullsec are the only actual reason for all these instability. So, I'm thinking about stopping my activity for a while and see what's going on, not that I don't like to go fishing afterall. Anything on your radars you guys can share?


The plex crash is more likely caused by the citadel release. People cashing in their plex hordes to buy citadel bpo's, plus the plex sale that went with it.

The T2 market is more likely than not caused by the loss of a lot of steady reaction farms in the north. I'd be willing to bet a lot of them have been running constant for years, so not that they're taken out of the equation there's a major lack of supply for a while.

Now's not the time to stop! Now's the time to play the market in all of it's unweildy glory Twisted
Haffsol
#3 - 2016-05-16 20:09:28 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Now's not the time to stop! Now's the time to play the market in all of it's unweildy glory Twisted

That's what I meant with "go fishing" Lol

Stop working was about stopping manufacturing P
Tarbro Abec
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-05-16 21:29:26 UTC
Haffsol wrote:
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Now's not the time to stop! Now's the time to play the market in all of it's unweildy glory Twisted

That's what I meant with "go fishing" Lol

Stop working was about stopping manufacturing P



So that's where my 2.6B in T1 production came from last week!

I knew something was fishy.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-05-16 22:09:59 UTC
Tarbro Abec wrote:
Haffsol wrote:
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Now's not the time to stop! Now's the time to play the market in all of it's unweildy glory Twisted

That's what I meant with "go fishing" Lol

Stop working was about stopping manufacturing P



So that's where my 2.6B in T1 production came from last week!

I knew something was fishy.

Yeah, you could and still can make some crazy profits with manufacturing of T1 and T2 right now ... and reaction products and PI are not the bottleneck here.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-05-17 03:37:19 UTC
T2 stuff is spiking because people like me are making literally hundreds of T2 guns and modules.

our last big capital moveop had almost a thousand people in caps

and all of them need an updated fitting

and we are only one of the big players in the game.

Marcus Ulpius Trajanus
Silvana Innovations
#7 - 2016-05-17 04:26:06 UTC
Speculation is speculative...that's why it's called speculation.
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#8 - 2016-05-17 04:33:41 UTC
Marcus Ulpius Trajanus wrote:
Speculation is speculative...that's why it's called speculation.


Okay, now you're just speculating on why it's called speculating
Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-05-19 18:42:09 UTC
Haffsol wrote:
I'm probably all wrong but I'm seeing lots of speculation recently in Jita. There are some specific moongoo products that are literally spiking, same with some T2 components and ships too. In the meanwhile, plex is plummeting. I'd have never imagined it would fall south of the 900 M after it hit the 1.2 B and more. It looks to me that the changes in nullsec are the only actual reason for all these instability. So, I'm thinking about stopping my activity for a while and see what's going on, not that I don't like to go fishing afterall. Anything on your radars you guys can share?

I'm guessing the main reason for the PLEX price drop is skill injectors.
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#10 - 2016-05-19 21:55:22 UTC
Zathra Narazi wrote:
Haffsol wrote:
I'm probably all wrong but I'm seeing lots of speculation recently in Jita. There are some specific moongoo products that are literally spiking, same with some T2 components and ships too. In the meanwhile, plex is plummeting. I'd have never imagined it would fall south of the 900 M after it hit the 1.2 B and more. It looks to me that the changes in nullsec are the only actual reason for all these instability. So, I'm thinking about stopping my activity for a while and see what's going on, not that I don't like to go fishing afterall. Anything on your radars you guys can share?

I'm guessing the main reason for the PLEX price drop is skill injectors.


How would the introduction of something that takes plex to produce (aurum for skill extractors and game time for training) cause a drop in the price of plex?
Raz Muesin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-05-20 04:17:42 UTC
The times are volatile.

Long standing goo producers/suppliers have been interrupted.
Stockpiles are probably dwindling
High demand/ ISK heavy items hit the market

This seems to be just a few highly disruptive market related issues recently occurring.

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-05-20 09:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Have not fully understood it yet, there are also price spikes in materials which are of no use in popular or new items ... others are spiking while the ingredients are actually not. Let's see and grab the profits as long as it lasts.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Jessie McPewpew
U2EZ
#13 - 2016-05-20 16:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie McPewpew
It's very simple, the ingridients for making all that new T2 stuff is causing supply to drop while demand is ever increasing. Suppliers have no other thing to do than to cash in. Same goes for the PI market as well.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2016-05-29 09:11:51 UTC
There was a lot of market turmoil caused by a spike in demand for Entosis Link IIs recently. That spike is now over but by god it was profitable.

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Coco Noceuse
Battle Pope Industries Ltd.
#15 - 2016-06-03 13:50:17 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Zathra Narazi wrote:
Haffsol wrote:
I'm probably all wrong but I'm seeing lots of speculation recently in Jita. There are some specific moongoo products that are literally spiking, same with some T2 components and ships too. In the meanwhile, plex is plummeting. I'd have never imagined it would fall south of the 900 M after it hit the 1.2 B and more. It looks to me that the changes in nullsec are the only actual reason for all these instability. So, I'm thinking about stopping my activity for a while and see what's going on, not that I don't like to go fishing afterall. Anything on your radars you guys can share?

I'm guessing the main reason for the PLEX price drop is skill injectors.


How would the introduction of something that takes plex to produce (aurum for skill extractors and game time for training) cause a drop in the price of plex?


No, players are buying skill injectors and cashing in plex to buy the injectors in quantity. The market price for plex started to turn downward when injectors were introduced. The market became awash in plex so price went down. I'm sure there were other factors but I noticed the plex price drop at the same time injectors were introduced.

To the op: I've seen some economic anomalies as well so I've made some production changes recently. Using my capital outside of what I usually build.