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FC Headshot per Fan-Fest

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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#121 - 2016-05-16 15:41:20 UTC
Lyra Gerie wrote:
Glitch Online wrote:
Lyra Gerie wrote:
Considering how far so many have taken this game as it is, I'm surprised most groups don't realize this has always been a military strategy. I get that it's frustrating, especially once you're a well known FC, but it's just how it is. Again, given how far other parts of this game have been taken, the organization and execution why are these FC's such linchpins in your fleets?

Have some redundancy in your fleets. No one officer should doom the fleet because he was lost.

I guess im just wondering why there isn't a fleet chain of command for situations like this and why it needs a game mechanic.


Casual game play prevents this in many cases. Redundancy can be obtained in certain groups/alliances. But this is for the masses that are casual players and alliances/Coalitions that cannot rely on their trained people to be on when needed.

As mentioned before, this 'game mechanic' is to prevent what would other wise be a great fleet vs fleet fight from ending fast (yes i know it is a tactic) BECAUSE the rest do not or will not take charge, and flee.

Keep in mind that keeping the FC alive even in our current time IS possible. Current task force sent out to patrol the Oceans are surrounded by support ships that keep any and all threats from reaching the Flag Ship. This ( takes some imagination in a make believe space ship game) can be thought to be applies here as well.


Of course screening the flagship is a good idea for support ships, but you can't do that sorta thing in eve. Meanwhile your excuse of casual players can't count on members falls flat for two reasons.

1. if you're a pvp alliance you should focus on recruiting those who fit the bill, regardless even small corps have the ability to teach basic fleet command so they can keep fighting even if their FC dies.

2. Smaller entities are lesser known as well. 90% of the time a small entities FC WONT be headshot. Might die in the fight but won't be headshot because no one knows who your FC is. Headshotting is much more a problem in the larger groups that have established FCs that everyone knows about. Sure the occasional small group might end up being spied on having their FC's names dropped and run into trouble in their next fight, but if you're engaging that kind of enemy they likely have resources and you probably should have picked your target better.


Small group get head-shotted sometime by dumb luck. The FC in a fleet of 10 has 10% chance of being the "lucky winner" of primary lotto after all...
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#122 - 2016-05-16 17:07:40 UTC
Lyra Gerie wrote:


Of course screening the flagship is a good idea for support ships, but you can't do that sorta thing in eve. Meanwhile your excuse of casual players can't count on members falls flat for two reasons.


1. What if you're not in a pvp alliance? Should you stay home and not even attempt pvp?

2. Small gangs will not be a problem under this 'idea' if you think about it. Squad commander will get 10% bonus resist at best, and Wing Commander will get.... well.. do the math. The only time i see FCs getting near invulnerable are when you have a full wing and or fleet ( Fleet Commander ), and for an alliance to pull that off they are either PVP oriented ( which means back up FCs to spare... probably ) or are packed with Carebears which rely on a few FCs to keep their pvp activities available to them.

one last thing... Targets some times pick you.
Glitch Online
License To Steal
#123 - 2016-05-16 17:09:11 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Glitch Online wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
OP this is going well. You just need to consolidate all the support you've collected in this thread and push forward. Ignore these nay-sayers and keep going. The summit is in sight. GO GO GO!


With support like yours, how could i say no. ONWARD!!!



That's because I'm a super awesome forum FC. I should be protected at all costs.


and you're doing a great job at keeping people which lack proper reading skills at bay... GJ.