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An Odd Request for Logistics Advice

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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
#1 - 2016-05-11 10:19:17 UTC
Salutations

I've been primarily concerned with Industry, Research, and Planetary Interaction. But, as I've been building ships and browsing the ship tree, I've discovered a fondness for those Logistics ships.

Now, I'm relatively inexperienced when it comes to combat flying (a combination of crafting obsession and general cowardice). But, at a glance those Logistics ships look like they're intended to repair other ships out in space. Am I correct in that?

If that's the case, then are Logistic pilots in demand at all? Obviously I just sort of build/sell things in my own little private corporation, but would there be circumstances where a Logistics pilot would be valued in a fleet? Or has PvP evolved to the point where Logistics ships have little-to-no impact?

Any feedback, information, or advice in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

"Great job shooting things that cant shoot back. You're a regular scourge of New Eden"

-Lament von Gankenheim from CODE. in response to someone destroying their POCOs.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2016-05-11 10:43:19 UTC
everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.

logi V is a valuable skill
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-05-11 12:53:57 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.

logi V is a valuable skill


This.

Ive recruited a few guys who want to only do logi and think they might not be accepted, as said everyone loves a logibro send that app Cool

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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
#4 - 2016-05-11 13:02:41 UTC
Well, fantastic!

This gives me a new hobby outside of manufacturing. Thank you.

"Great job shooting things that cant shoot back. You're a regular scourge of New Eden"

-Lament von Gankenheim from CODE. in response to someone destroying their POCOs.

Francis Raven
The Burnouts
Deepwater Hooligans
#5 - 2016-05-11 13:04:24 UTC
One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.

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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
#6 - 2016-05-11 14:02:27 UTC
Francis Raven wrote:
One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.



Do you mean pick one and specialize? Or do you mean do both concurrently?

"Great job shooting things that cant shoot back. You're a regular scourge of New Eden"

-Lament von Gankenheim from CODE. in response to someone destroying their POCOs.

Echo Mande
#7 - 2016-05-11 14:02:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Echo Mande
Calivess Avada wrote:
Well, fantastic!

This gives me a new hobby outside of manufacturing. Thank you.


If you want inspiration you could go look at some of Rooks & Kings' youtube videos (called Clarion Call IIRC) for inspiration. They are getting a bit dated (carriers with remote reps for instance) but good watching.

For a laugh you could even join a highsec PVE corp and propose a RR PVE evening. Everyone in a plated BS with reps provided by a Guardian team or in a passive shield BS with some Basilisks repping.

The fit below works for Logistics 4 and good (but far from perfect) fitting and armor skills but is tight.

[Guardian, Repper]
800mm Steel Plates II
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Armor EM Hardener II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermal Hardener
Damage Control II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script

Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Large Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Large Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Large Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer
Large Coaxial Compact Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Anti-Thermal Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I



Good luck.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-05-11 14:32:43 UTC
Calivess Avada wrote:
Francis Raven wrote:
One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.



Do you mean pick one and specialize? Or do you mean do both concurrently?


Think guardian is the most common so armor reps you should go for first

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#9 - 2016-05-11 14:51:32 UTC
99% of the PvP pilots want to deal out damage.
Pilots that want to fly Logi are rare, but EVERYBODY LIKES THEM.
Many corps will even pay for your ship, or cover the difference from insurance payout.
Raging Bull Unchained
Signal Lost
#10 - 2016-05-11 15:04:56 UTC
Keep in mind that if you use a logi in a small gang and you end up beeing the very single logi-ship:
Bring a local rep with you :P
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#11 - 2016-05-11 19:13:57 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.




Except Killmails, obvs

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2016-05-11 19:30:56 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.




Except Killmails, obvs

Yes exept killmails.
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#13 - 2016-05-11 22:03:27 UTC
If you want to ease yourself into logistics, you could also run them in incursions. They need logi as well, and you make quite a bit of isk running them. Most incursion groups seem to be shield based, so a basi or scimi would be the way to go if you want to try that route out.
Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
#14 - 2016-05-12 01:38:07 UTC
I keep seeing people say "reps". Forgive me, I'm not too savvy with a lot of the shorthand yet. Could someone explain what a "rep" is, and what it means in the context of this thread please?

And thanks for all the feedback. I'm really enjoying all the information that you're providing.

"Great job shooting things that cant shoot back. You're a regular scourge of New Eden"

-Lament von Gankenheim from CODE. in response to someone destroying their POCOs.

Derath Ellecon
Lotek Academy
#15 - 2016-05-12 01:42:33 UTC
Logi IMO is one of the most fun challenging tasks in EVE. It is somewhat a thankless job as you will usually not have many killmails to show for it. but it is super satisfying when you land that saving rep on a fleet mate.
Khamalaa
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-05-12 06:14:06 UTC
Calivess Avada wrote:
Francis Raven wrote:
One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.



Do you mean pick one and specialize? Or do you mean do both concurrently?


He meant that Capacitor Logistics is another ball game compared to Shield/Armor logi.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-05-12 06:40:34 UTC
Calivess Avada wrote:
I keep seeing people say "reps". Forgive me, I'm not too savvy with a lot of the shorthand yet. Could someone explain what a "rep" is, and what it means in the context of this thread please?

And thanks for all the feedback. I'm really enjoying all the information that you're providing.
Reps is simply short for 'repairs'.

'Giving reps' = remote repairing another player with your logi ship.

'Broadcast for reps' = when a player in a fleet signals that he needs repairs, via an in-game command that makes his request visible to all fleet members (and logibros in particular) in the 'fleet broadcast history' window

Have fun, logi is awesome!

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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
#18 - 2016-05-16 00:05:59 UTC
Excellent, thank you!

As I'm unfamiliar with how the modules function, I've been getting a bit of practice in by repairing my drones while hitting NPC complexes. I could see this being pretty hectic, to be honest. Thankfully, I don't think many ships fly away as fast as drones do, so running a logistics cruiser might be easier with players.

#FingersCrossed

I have a thing about making sure I can manufacture a ship (and the modules) before I actually fly them. So, I look forward to seeing what these things can do.

"Great job shooting things that cant shoot back. You're a regular scourge of New Eden"

-Lament von Gankenheim from CODE. in response to someone destroying their POCOs.

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2016-05-16 00:34:26 UTC
Calivess Avada wrote:
Excellent, thank you!

As I'm unfamiliar with how the modules function, I've been getting a bit of practice in by repairing my drones while hitting NPC complexes. I could see this being pretty hectic, to be honest. Thankfully, I don't think many ships fly away as fast as drones do, so running a logistics cruiser might be easier with players.

#FingersCrossed

I have a thing about making sure I can manufacture a ship (and the modules) before I actually fly them. So, I look forward to seeing what these things can do.


Most ship will indeed not fly away from your rep range as fast as drones and dedicated logistic ships also have the benefit of range bonus to prevent this partially. Past that, it's kind of a team game where you will try your best to keep your fleet mate at range while your fleet should have enough brain power to understand your range is not unlimited and that they might be on their own if they fly far away.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#20 - 2016-05-16 01:28:52 UTC
Calivess Avada wrote:
I keep seeing people say "reps". Forgive me, I'm not too savvy with a lot of the shorthand yet. Could someone explain what a "rep" is, and what it means in the context of this thread please?

And thanks for all the feedback. I'm really enjoying all the information that you're providing.


That's just everything you can repair during a fight. Capacitor transfers, remote armor repair modules, remote shield transfers and remote hull transfers but don't ever use the latter during a fight, only after.

There is nothing really wrong with flying what you like but a general rule of thumb is that an Osprey is better suited for shield fleet and capacitor support, an Augruor better for fleet armor and capacitor.
A scythe for solo shield logi and only shield and an Exequorer for solo armor repair and only armor.

All 4 of them have a recently new bonus for logistic drones, which you can put in the drone-bay of those and an Osprey can have 4x light armor bots (repair drones) or even 4x hull repair drones.

This is usually up to the needs of the many and you just keep an eye or better both eyes on your watchlist, so you'll know when which repair modules is necessary or you get requests via the fleet menu.

Some prefer armor over everything, I like shields more but it up to you. In the end you might up training all of them anyways.

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