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Jedi mining.

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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#21 - 2016-05-12 07:49:34 UTC
Mike Eshva wrote:
Yodik, I didn't test it and probably never harvested gas but I would prefer such a fit:

[Prospect, Jedi Gas Harvester]
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers

5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

1. It has better tank 7.6k EHP in comparison with 6.9k of yours.
2. It faster ~2800 m/s in comparison with ~1100 m/s of yours.
3. Better war-out time 3 s (4 s) in comparison with 4 s (6 s) of yours. With and without propulsion mod.
4. It still has pretty small signature radius ~40 m in comparison with ~36 m of yours.
5. Almost same price tag ~40kk.
6. Still cap-stable with all modules on.

What do you think about the fit?

Can you tell why you almost always loose your pod together with your ship? Do you mine in AFK mode? It's pretty easy to safe a pod, just spam warp button when a celestial is selected.

u die with signature more then 55.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Mike Eshva
Veredictum
#22 - 2016-05-12 15:10:29 UTC
Yes your are right. I saw a few videos about hunting for Prospect. The main problem are bubbles. The fit needs to be agile, fast and with a tiny signature to get the pilot to run out from a bubble and warp away. I came out to such a fit:

Prospect - Not Gonna Get Us (Нас не догонят!)

[Prospect, Not Gonna Get Us]
Damage Control II
Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers
Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers
Mark I Compact Power Diagnostic System

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

1. The tank is 5.6k EHP but it not so important because it is not a fighting fit. If you don't warp away ASAP you'll die anyway.
2. The speed with AB ~2200 m/s, with overloaded AB ~3100 m/s. I use 10MN AB not MWD to be able to ignore scramblers side effect.
3. Still 3 s war-out time without AB. I tried to improve it but isn't possible even with all low slots and rigs fitted for agility. Even implants don't help. 3 s time to warp is the minimum for this ship.
4. Minimal signature radius for the ship ~34.7 m.
5. Same price tag ~40kk.
6. Cap-stable with all modules on.
7. Dual web to slower opponents and run away from bubble or scrambler. 10 km range or 13 km if overloaded.

It's pity I can't test it for the moment. I need 2 weeks to study all required skills. Please test it for me.
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#23 - 2016-05-12 18:19:04 UTC
Mike Eshva wrote:
Yes your are right. I saw a few videos about hunting for Prospect. The main problem are bubbles. The fit needs to be agile, fast and with a tiny signature to get the pilot to run out from a bubble and warp away. I came out to such a fit:

Prospect - Not Gonna Get Us (Нас не догонят!)

[Prospect, Not Gonna Get Us]
Damage Control II
Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers
Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers
Mark I Compact Power Diagnostic System

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

1. The tank is 5.6k EHP but it not so important because it is not a fighting fit. If you don't warp away ASAP you'll die anyway.
2. The speed with AB ~2200 m/s, with overloaded AB ~3100 m/s. I use 10MN AB not MWD to be able to ignore scramblers side effect.
3. Still 3 s war-out time without AB. I tried to improve it but isn't possible even with all low slots and rigs fitted for agility. Even implants don't help. 3 s time to warp is the minimum for this ship.
4. Minimal signature radius for the ship ~34.7 m.
5. Same price tag ~40kk.
6. Cap-stable with all modules on.
7. Dual web to slower opponents and run away from bubble or scrambler. 10 km range or 13 km if overloaded.

It's pity I can't test it for the moment. I need 2 weeks to study all required skills. Please test it for me.

read thread again. u need 2-3 warp cores to run from sleeper sentinels on instrumenta. other fit as u comfortable, but yes. 10mn ab is best choice.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Mike Eshva
Veredictum
#24 - 2016-05-13 06:40:47 UTC
Your video from the second post gone. Your channel from the first post has no any videos about gas huffing in Prospect. I even can't understand do you clear gas sites completely or just huff it the first 20 minutes till sleepers come into.
I never did it myself yet but do very like any stealth activities in all games and like to try it some day. Can you re-upload your video or explain details about your 'Jedi' way of farming gas sites here? 'Ninja' way of this activity I do understand: scan, warp, huff 20 minutes, warp away on sleeper arrival. What is different with yours?
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#25 - 2016-05-13 07:11:44 UTC
Mike Eshva wrote:
Your video from the second post gone. Your channel from the first post has no any videos about gas huffing in Prospect. I even can't understand do you clear gas sites completely or just huff it the first 20 minutes till sleepers come into.
I never did it myself yet but do very like any stealth activities in all games and like to try it some day. Can you re-upload your video or explain details about your 'Jedi' way of farming gas sites here? 'Ninja' way of this activity I do understand: scan, warp, huff 20 minutes, warp away on sleeper arrival. What is different with yours?

sry. fixed

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Virke Arjar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2016-05-14 19:02:10 UTC
I lost three Prospects trying this and only managed to not die and leave with full ore hold once. I remember that the biggest problem was getting the ship to orbit the gas cloud the right way, which, because of absolute bollocks that EvE orbiting mechanics are, was huge pain in the bum. Most of the time my Prospect did a 180 and happily set on course to the Sleeper's battleships, and so it's misery.

That of course led to me trying to save the situation, which resulted in sudden explosion. Soon I gave up. The inability to select how I wanted my ship to orbit something was too much to handle. I believe it's almost the same now, the only difference being changes of distance from the object, which are smoother. How do you handle it, OP?
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#27 - 2016-05-15 11:10:36 UTC
Virke Arjar wrote:
I lost three Prospects trying this and only managed to not die and leave with full ore hold once. I remember that the biggest problem was getting the ship to orbit the gas cloud the right way, which, because of absolute bollocks that EvE orbiting mechanics are, was huge pain in the bum. Most of the time my Prospect did a 180 and happily set on course to the Sleeper's battleships, and so it's misery.

That of course led to me trying to save the situation, which resulted in sudden explosion. Soon I gave up. The inability to select how I wanted my ship to orbit something was too much to handle. I believe it's almost the same now, the only difference being changes of distance from the object, which are smoother. How do you handle it, OP?

i use the force. and all maneuvering skills at 5

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Mike Eshva
Veredictum
#28 - 2016-05-16 12:49:49 UTC
Yodik wrote:
i use the force. and all maneuvering skills at 5

Which kind of the force? Manual piloting you mean?
Mike Eshva
Veredictum
#29 - 2016-05-16 15:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Eshva
After a lot of fitting attempts I came up to such a fitting:
Jedi Huffing (Not Gonna Get Us)

[Prospect, Jedi Huffing (Not Gonna Get Us)]
Damage Control II
Mark I Compact Reactor Control Unit
'Stoic' Core Equalizer I
'Stoic' Core Equalizer I

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


Minimal signature, 10MN AB, cap-stable with both AB and shield booster on, has two warp-core stabilizers, improved agile, moderate tank, cheap. The only problem I guess is orbiting around the cloud below 1.5km with AB on but need to check it out.
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#30 - 2016-05-16 20:23:52 UTC
Mike Eshva wrote:
After a lot of fitting attempts I came up to such a fitting:
Jedi Huffing (Not Gonna Get Us)

[Prospect, Jedi Huffing (Not Gonna Get Us)]
Damage Control II
Mark I Compact Reactor Control Unit
'Stoic' Core Equalizer I
'Stoic' Core Equalizer I

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


Minimal signature, 10MN AB, cap-stable with both AB and shield booster on, has two warp-core stabilizers, improved agile, moderate tank, cheap. The only problem I guess is orbiting around the cloud below 1.5km with AB on but need to check it out.

it will be guide-stream soon.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Mike Eshva
Veredictum
#31 - 2016-05-16 21:19:22 UTC
Yodik wrote:
it will be guide-stream soon.


Could you leave here a link for this stream?
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#32 - 2016-05-17 01:07:00 UTC
Mike Eshva wrote:
Yodik wrote:
it will be guide-stream soon.


Could you leave here a link for this stream?

sure, it will be annonced.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Kaisha Osei
Osei Industries
#33 - 2016-05-19 11:07:34 UTC
This is awesome, I'm definitely going to try this on the next WH gas site I find! Do you mind if I include a link to your vid in my blog? Will give credit of course!

https://thesoloindustrialist.wordpress.com Building EVE, 1 Trit at a time!

Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#34 - 2016-05-19 22:39:58 UTC
Kaisha Osei wrote:
This is awesome, I'm definitely going to try this on the next WH gas site I find! Do you mind if I include a link to your vid in my blog? Will give credit of course!

ok

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#35 - 2016-05-19 23:36:50 UTC
Yodik wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXgtwNrDw20

Reminds me of Tower of Joy (GoT Spoiler Alert if you are not up-to-date)
Danetta Valens
Phayder Research
#36 - 2016-07-14 13:59:33 UTC
Just found this guy in my C13, lol.
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#37 - 2016-07-14 16:56:58 UTC
Danetta Valens wrote:
Just found this guy in my C13, lol.

incredible.

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

Danetta Valens
Phayder Research
#38 - 2016-09-30 09:41:20 UTC
Hey, don't act like this.
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
#39 - 2016-09-30 12:30:37 UTC
Danetta Valens wrote:
Hey, don't act like this.

or what?

В любой непонятной ситуации - качай Prospect.

13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2016-10-04 06:44:04 UTC
Droidster wrote:
I thought it was against YouTube rules to post videos of yourself playing a game.


Then say goodbye to all eve online content from E-uni.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices

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