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What The H-E-Double Hockey Sticks Happened to Mining?
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Captain Stupid
Swiss Army Spoons
#21 - 2016-05-13 05:19:14 UTC
He could always buy a permit Twisted
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2016-05-13 05:23:11 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Let's see:
- AFK Mining in a retrieve-
- Not docking up while afk
- Fitting your retriever like that(poor thing was begging for a quick death)
- Not using dscan to gtfo when those cats start showing up

You deserved what you got. That's like saying "I'm gonna afk in Street Fighter without pausing the game" and then coming back to see your Ryu KO'd and wondering why the game is bad.


Hey Mr. "I'm better then you" I'm not looking for Trolls....I'm looking for solutions. Sorry I can't spend the 20+hrs a week like you to figure this game out. Solutions or shut the Hell up


Solution:
1. DO NOT AFK
2. Learn to Dscan
3. DO NOT AFK
4. Fit a tank (hint: retrievers are bad at it)
5. DO NOT AFK
6. Set known gankers to -10
7. DO NOT AFK
8. Dock up when you want to afk not stay on the belt to be a target for cats
9. DO NOT AFK
10. Team up with other like-minded players (that don't afk mine and whine about dying when they get ganked)
11. DO NOT AFK

There's your solution. It aint hard m8 I even made an alt to mine my way into a bloody rhea. Did I forget to say that DO NOT AFK when undocked? I think I didn't say it hard enough.


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Jeezuz....you need to get laid


Asks for solution, gets it and doesn't like said solution as it doesn't conform with his idea of a "solution" and therefore proceeds to insult said solution giver.

It's like you don't want to learn on how to play EVE and just want it to fit with your own concept on how EVE should be.


Well you DID start the insults first, BUT if it's appreciation for being an insulting Ass Hat, then sure I'll let you have it.

THANK YOU SO SO MUCH.....OH I SHOULD KISS YOUR FEET YOU STUD OF A EVE PILOT. OMG I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY....YOU TALKED TO ME AND MY LIFE JUST CHANGED FOR THE BETTER. OH THE HUMANITY. I'M GOING TO FAINT!

Do me a favor....please go Troll another thread.
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2016-05-13 05:24:19 UTC
Captain Stupid wrote:
He could always buy a permit Twisted


Well I COULD, but I've been told and have seen people get blasted even when they had one.....so I'd rather just not.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#24 - 2016-05-13 05:35:52 UTC
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
I HATE FPS games....It's not like I AFK all day long. The last 3 times I was at the keyboard. You just can't react fast enough to these guys. So the useful info I got out of this is Procurer and Skiff...Good to know. As for ISK generation, what would you suggest? I don't have a lot to start off with anyway, so Mining seems the logical choice for now.
More lucrative professions with low bars to entry include exploration, PI (although I would look to lowsec) which is pretty passive once you get it set up, or even wormhole gas mining. Gas miners are dirt cheap (although the skill book is not) and while you will get close to 100M ISK/hour if you can ninja high end sites, your overall income will be lower given the time overhead of scanning down wormhole chains.

You never said why you want to make ISK but if it for PvP you might just want to just jump into Faction Warfare. The plexes and eventually missions pay very well. Similarly if you have the skills sleeper combat sites in the low class wormholes you can easily access from highsec are lucrative and relatively quick and safe.

Finally there is L4 missions and Incursions in highsec. These will eventually suck the joy of the game out of you, but if you just need a set amount of ISK you can grind then for a bit.

More generally though, ISK is just a means to an end. You should be enjoying your game time playing how you want and then trying to make ISK from that rather than putting ISK first and as your main goal. The a many ways to make ISK but it is much better if you find a way you enjoy, even if slightly less efficient, than to suffer through game play you hate because you think you need ISK.

Play the game, find what you like, set some goals and then go from there about how to make ISK.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#25 - 2016-05-13 05:41:56 UTC
AFK mining is not playing the game, it's like having young kids in your house with a loaded gun under a pillow while you flirt with the neighbor's wife over the garden fence and expecting nothing will go wrong.
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#26 - 2016-05-13 05:42:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
So I've been away from the game for over a year. Just got back into it and I've been TRYING to mine to build up some money. Unfortunately I've discovered the new "Hotness" in EVE....Asteroid Squatting. When did it become fashionable to absolutely gank a lowly mining rig...in Hi Sec areas and then scream at you for not paying for a mining contract? Ugh

I mean seriously, is this the new "friendly" EVE way of playing? Getting prison gang raped by morons until you either join their prison gang or pay a stupid contract fee and still get blasted by these Heathens? What the hell are you supposed to do to make money? Is AFK mining in HI SEC a relic of the past? I've lost 3 rigs in the last week and I haven't even played that many hours to be honest. Seems like every other time I sign on and try to mine I get podded....I'm starting to think I made a big mistake coming back.

Time to look for new game I suppose?



Mining ganking has always existed. Simply the area where you are now mining has a high percentage of gankers. Move to a less frequented system and fit a tank to your mining ships, possibly an active one so that the gankers notice it and choose easier targets.
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-05-13 05:51:46 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:
[quote=Aucturis Arbosa]More lucrative professions with low bars to entry include exploration, PI (although I would look to lowsec) which is pretty passive once you get it set up, or even wormhole gas mining. Gas miners are dirt cheap (although the skill book is not) and while you will get close to 100M ISK/hour if you can ninja high end sites, your overall income will be lower given the time overhead of scanning down wormhole chains.

You never said why you want to make ISK but if it for PvP you might just want to just jump into Faction Warfare. The plexes and eventually missions pay very well. Similarly if you have the skills sleeper combat sites in the low class wormholes you can easily access from highsec are lucrative and relatively quick and safe.



For the main reason ISK...because I want to buy stuff!Lol But I've got my skills up to pilot an ORCA, so that's my main goal for now is to purchase and insure one of those bad boys...Working on my carrier skills now. That's my next goal. I guess after all that I'll try to join a corp. Its a cool open sandbox game and I know there are other players out there, but sometimes I'd rather just fly SOLO (pun intended).
Captain Stupid
Swiss Army Spoons
#28 - 2016-05-13 06:00:04 UTC
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
Captain Stupid wrote:
He could always buy a permit Twisted


Well I COULD, but I've been told and have seen people get blasted even when they had one.....so I'd rather just not.



Well, in fairness you are correct. The permit only allows mining in high sec, and not afk mining, which I understand is in violation of the terms and therefore invalidates it. That's an in game way of describing that CODE would just blow you up anyway Lol

On topic, and hopefully helping, just don't use a retriever, it is the gankers favourite target!
RabbitX
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2016-05-13 06:20:58 UTC
Anyone found purchasing a permit will be ganked on site.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#30 - 2016-05-13 07:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Hi,

You seem to have got blasted by the forum warriors for trying to play in your own sandbox.

Here is what you fly and how you fit it:, some people tell me its over tanked, but ignore them, you want to be hard to kill and here it is...

[Skiff, Skiff]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II

Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x5

Those CODEling's will now go and blow up someone else because you will be too hard for them.

If you cannot yet fly the Skiff get a Procurer and do a similar fit, gankers don't go for them either.

[Procurer, Martini 2]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II

Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


As for the CODE permit, it is not worth the paper it is printed on, the Skiff and their inability to up their game to kill it is your permit...

EDIT: LOL, CODE needed three Catalysts to kill a Retreiver, that is so funny.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-05-13 07:01:25 UTC
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
Captain Stupid wrote:
He could always buy a permit Twisted


Well I COULD, but I've been told and have seen people get blasted even when they had one.....so I'd rather just not.


Told by whom? Biased rebel propaganda no doubt.

I have never in my entire career as an agent of the New Order even heard of a code-compliant miner getting ganked and not then being reimbursed.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#32 - 2016-05-13 07:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#33 - 2016-05-13 07:09:27 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
code-compliant miner

You can always say there are some. But in reality they do not exist for CODE.
Mining permits dont do anything else than give you free ISK.

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Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2016-05-13 07:49:20 UTC
Don't train the Orca, unless you are in a corp (that needs a booster) and/or have at least 3 mining alts. You will make nothing.

If you want to PVE, train your probing skills, hacking skills, and basic combat skills. With these at decent level (like lvl4) you can do the data/relic and combat anomalies in highsec and work towards lowsec/wh or null if you wish. Now you will deal with RNG (random loot and spawns) but will enjoy it solo. Exploration is ideally suited if you want solo play.

I think most who have done these basics will agree that you can at least pull some decent loot from time to time. You also get bounty payments for ratting, and will improve your standings and security ratings (you might need those...).

For Bob's sake just don't afk mine in a bloody Retriever or Covetor...sorry TisiBlink

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Thunderdome
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2016-05-13 08:40:39 UTC
Bye

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Black Pedro
Mine.
#36 - 2016-05-13 08:42:47 UTC
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
For the main reason ISK...because I want to buy stuff!Lol But I've got my skills up to pilot an ORCA, so that's my main goal for now is to purchase and insure one of those bad boys...
Why? I am not telling you how to play the game, but an Orca is a mining support ship/mini-freighter. Unless you have many accounts it is useless for mining, and only marginally useful for hauling things. If you want to fly an Orca you should at least find a group of other players, if not join a corp that you can use the Orca together to improve your mining yield.

Aucturis Arbosa wrote:
Working on my carrier skills now. That's my next goal. I guess after all that I'll try to join a corp. Its a cool open sandbox game and I know there are other players out there, but sometimes I'd rather just fly SOLO (pun intended).
You can always fly solo, even in most corps. Just find a more laid back one that doesn't mind you doing you own thing much of the time but yet you will have some support and help accomplishing your goals. There is no reason to avoid joining a corp until you reach some arbitrary milestone.

You will not be able to routinely fly a carrier by yourself. At a minimum you will need multiple accounts, but in reality you will want a group to belong to to help protect and make use of that ship. Both your goals really require you to look towards finding a corp that will fit with your playstyle. Make that a priority because if you are just avoiding it because you don't feel ready, I am telling you that you will never feel ready. The most efficient way to learn the game is to join a (good) group an benefit from their knowledge and direct support.

The worst that can happen is the corp sucks and you quit. You will be no worse off than you are today.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-05-13 08:44:30 UTC
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:

What I'm thinking about is taking my Typhoon out to where I got ganked....cloak and wait for those 2 a-holes to show back up in their frigates....


Because a BS with a cloak fitted will be able to uncloak, lock, and kill those frigates before the retriever gets popped? Right LolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLol
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2016-05-13 08:45:39 UTC
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:


Hey Mr. "I'm better then you" I'm not looking for Trolls....I'm looking for solutions.


Solution: Don't play AFK.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#39 - 2016-05-13 09:11:01 UTC
Gurista Nerfed
Doomheim
#40 - 2016-05-13 09:15:11 UTC
Everybody ganks, or tries to. Everybody wardec griefs. Everybody talks **** in local. The game is out of control.
About the permit thing, that's just a silly thing that you can safely tell them to stuff where the sun don't shine.