EVE General Discussion

INB4

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There's only so many people able and willing to put up with this game. I won't go as far as saying that the market is saturated but I don't think that putting more advertisement out would get you the right kind of players in here. Chances are, 99% of them would quit after two days.

Dear new players: OP is an example of what not to become.

IB4 deserved L

So I am going to agree with some others here.

One, you are not a New Player, nor are you posting a new Player Q or A
(so I will move this to General Discussion)

There is no real discussion in this topic.


CCP has done a fair bit to improve the New Player Experience and Advertise Eve to New Players over the last few years. There were even presentations at Fanfest this year talking about the Health of the Game's Community through Raw Numbers presented by CCP Quant.

There is also no substance to the statement that if CCP had 500k Active Players daily that they could reduce subscription costs. Having More active players would require much more Infrastructure which costs more money and requires more upkeep.

OK. I will Unlock this then to allow some Constructive Discussion.

Lets see how long it will stay open for. (Don't make me regret it.)

EVE has longevity in the market, and that is a valuable thing. CCP once tried to move to bigger and better things, they made DUST-514 and tried to make World of Darkness the MMO, but after spending a lot and not getting that much back, they realized they had abandoned their faithful baby. EVE kept chugging along without development support, generating funds but it began to lose long-term players because CCP was ignoring glaring issues that weren't that difficult to fix. Now they spend a small amount of their budget on continually making EVE a better game while being VERY careful not to destroy what we faithful EVE players like most about it, and they have the majority of their budget left over to spend on bigger projects that could make them rich and famous but might not be successful.

EVE is the project they know will make money. And that is very important in a fiercely competitive market such as the one CCP is dabbling in. Without us, CCP may have been sunk, and it would have taken with it one of the richest people in Iceland--CCP Hilmar.

From time to time, in seasonal coating, the eve is dying thread.


p.s. In swa chat, which is a rookie corp I counted last sunday over 700 members. Compared with 200-300 pre patch the average during the last week was around 500. And that is only one rookie starter corp.

I disagree with the concept the OP is putting forward. In order for an Epic Fail to have happened, the game would have to have been damaged or destroyed by it's advertising. That has not happened. Even the OP said "9 Years Later" which implies the game is still GOING 9 years later with about the same subscription rate.

So, no epic fail here... however, no epic win either.

I've wondered for a long time now about how I would market this game. I have to admit, it's really hard. They've tried the mega fleet battles, the decisions have consequences, the various 'desciptive' ads supporting the various expansions. All of that is fine, but while the ads are cool, I don't want to dive into the game.

In many ways, the best advertising for the game is the players themselves. I've seen a couple of ad attempts down this road also but again, nothing that would make my fingers fly across the keyboard to join. I joined because a friend of mine lead me to try it. That's it.

So, right now my brain is settling on the idea that the game itself is the advertising it needs. I'm not talking trial periods, nor streams of large fleet fights or day to day ho-hum stuff. I'm talking CCP opening YouTube and Twitch channels, turning live time over to players with events and discussions going on over various things. Take people back into the programmer dungeons, as well as into the brainstorming meetings. Put up constant content. Have regularly scheduled shows "Newbro Hour", "Fitting your...." (Yeah, start with the Raven ), "PVP Playground", "Corporation Corner"... etc. In EVE you literally have all the stock market financial shows, builders content, Military content, social content, drama, comedy, reality show etc. The game is a reflection of the real life and real people in it. Put it out there!

There are already some YouTube stars centered on EVE, they would be a great place to start for some help in developing stuff. Make it fun, make it entertaining, make it brutal and awesome.

Show off EVE!

(On a side note)

CCP can also monetize EVE via such a channel. Pay in game ISK or PLEX for ad time for your alliances, YouTube show, tutorial channels, whatever. They can take money from other MMO's, games and interests. Get creative!

Isn't the moon closer?