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Why do EVE players love gankers so much?
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VaMei
Meafi Corp
#61 - 2012-01-13 16:43:20 UTC
scramblekid wrote:
IRL, I love my job as a software engineer. I know that I would not have my job if the company I work for did not exist, but this does not fill me with an urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun and shoot all of the lesser skilled people who use the systems I create.


1st this. It's a really bad analogy, since no one is ever actually killed or maimed in Eve. You re-spawn, gear up, and head out for more of whatever it is you do. If what you lost to the gank was game breaking for you, you failed to follow the #1 rule of Eve:

Don't undock with something you can't afford to loose. Ship, modules, cargo, and implants, assume it'll all be lost the moment you undock. Anything else is a good day.

Follow that rule, and everything is replaceable

scramblekid wrote:

So what joy can be gotten out of killing a miner hard at work, who helps provide the building blocks for the rest of the eve community.


Myself, I've never killed a miner, mission runner or a hauler; but I do support those that do.

For my part, I see Eve as a game of competition, even for most of the carebears. Whether you run missions, mine, explore, trade or manufacture, your income and your costs are based on the market. Everything you buy or sell is valued by supply & demand, with a bit of manipulation thrown in for good measure. Every other player out there doing what you do is shifting the supply/demand ratio out of favor for you. The only way to compete with them is to 'persuade' them to go elsewhere, or to accept a lower income than they do and to be willing to pay more than they do for whatever materials/sundries your trade requires.

The other half of the whole equation is that the Eve market is driven by destruction. If nothing was destroyed, then nothing would need to be replaced. If nothing is replaced, who would you buy from or sell to? From a post of mine some time ago...

Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from destruction, disorder and chaos. Take this empty glass: here it is, peaceful, serene. Boring. But if it is ... destroyed. Well, look at all these little things - so busy now! Notice how each one is useful. A lovely ballet ensues, so full of form and color! Now think of all the people that created them, technicians, engineers, hundreds of people who will be able to feed their children tonight so those children can grow up big and strong and have little teeny-weeny children of their own and so on and so forth. Thus adding to the great chain of life.

You see, Father, by creating a little destruction, I'm actually encouraging life. In reality, you and I are in the same business. Cheers.
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-01-13 17:02:46 UTC
tl;dr

Since you obviously don't quite understand what this game is all about, here's my recommendation:

Hello Kitty Online is that way... ------->
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-01-13 20:04:28 UTC
Why?

Because the people who love EVE the most and stay the longest like the sandbox nature of EVE the best. “Gankers” represent this freedom of Sandbox by pointedly reminding some of the people in High Sec that EVE is a Sandbox and you are never truly safe.
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2012-01-14 06:33:06 UTC
Eve is a game. In a game you can do epic things you can't in real life. I will never be an NHL wingman, but I love playing hockey on the Xbox- never own a garage full of supercars but I spend hours turning laps in Forza.

I can't actually fly spaceships and shoot people in the face with giant lasers. So that is what Eve is for.
I could have been a miner in real life-- I sure didn't want to do that then, and I sure don't want to do it in a game.
I don't play that NHL game to be the water boy. I don't drive the Prius at Laguna Seca in Forza.

For many (often the carebear type) Eve is more like a job than a game. Not building a toon, just copying builds and ship fittings from others. Threads about isk/hour???? Seriously???

Just me personally- I want to do the most epic or outrageous thing I can just for the sake of being able to in a game. It's why I created this fake space man-- to do what I can't do for real.

I carebear'd for way too long. I hated being a noob that was helpless when someone war dec'd my corp and I couldn't even run missions in high sec.
Now that I only tolerate whatever bare minimum of PvE to support as much PvP as I can do--- I'm just another pirate angry that low and null are so darn empty and carebears hide forever in high sec. I hate 'blue to us' and wish Rens was declared null sec in the next patch...

That's just me. I got into the game for space combat- spent the time grinding as a carebear to get some SP and some isk- but now that I can PvP most of my time- my zeal for death is just finally being able to do what I got into the game to do in the first place.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#65 - 2012-01-14 07:42:43 UTC
Dear god... who necro'ed this thread??? *grabs shovel*

How did you Veterans start?