Warfare & Tactics

im guessing halos + skirmish or snakes + skirmish.

was he Armour or Shield fit and was he active or buffer?
also do you remember what speed he was going?

sig tanking and speed tanking synergies quite well together ,
for reference a properly sigtanked ishkur can have the same sig (or near enough ) as a light drone.

It looks like you had phased plasma loaded. A wolf's highest resists are going to be EM and Thermal. The fusion in your hold would have been the way to go.

Zarnak Wulf, I had my weapons split in two groups with emp on 2 and fusion on 2. I just wasn't hitting.

Dual web + scram... are you shure the ishkur on the km didn't got an ewar mod?

You said you've seen him rep so you must have hit him in the beggining.From what I see on his kb the guy tends to use faction ab.


Target speed and transversal on the overview is quite useful if you use turrets.

You're best bet was not to manual pilot but keep him at range. With your AB and double webs, you should have been able to keep range on him, although most likely would have been by a few m/s. The other option and it's usually highly underused is using the projectile ammos that give you a 0% range bonus and a 20% tracking speed bonus. Also, carry a drop booster if you're constantly finding snaked and linked AB frigs

A combination of those would have meant you could hit him, but because links are so OP I doubt you would have broken his active tank anyways

He does fly with links.

Gerbert Hartman

Pointed out the important part. If Gerbert is looking to fight you it's because his scout has found you solo and they're ready to outnumber you, out link you, and bring recons that don't allow you to do anything but die.

The most important thing to do is to not fight gerbert and his crew. His gameplay is pretty cancerous to EvE as it's 100% risk averse. if you look like you have a gang ready and are actually prepared to fight him he'll just leave. That kind of gamplay shouldn't be rewarded ever with KM's....

We are sometimes prone to double-speak in eve … especially when something happens that we do not like.

Before I go on, my credentials: I am bad at eve, I am especially bad at PvP, but I’ve been around a while and have seen and done a lot of things in this game.

Target selection is a huge part of successful PvP in eve. For example I am usually happy to solo-tackle a Hurricane in my Pilgrim, but I leave Drakes and Ishtars well alone. Similarly I love the opportunity to tackle a svipul or two, but if they’re part of a 20-ship gang with their buddies waiting on the next-door gate then I stay vewy vewy quiet.

Similarly intel is also very important. For example I know certain characters to often be flying cyno ships and it’s the same ol’ TEST names that turn up to try and tarp me after I’ve managed to kill one of their brethren. I also keep eyes watching nearby systems and spies in some of my target’s corps. If my targets are formed-up and on a titan, or if their capital/supercapital hotdroppers are in ship and inspace, then I know it’s likely that my next juicy target is going to be tanked and cyno-fit.

Implants, boosters, and links are also important in allowing you to get the edge over your opponents. For a while I was using links to help my pilgrim by increasing its tank and speed, decreasing its effective size, and increasing the range of its point. That allowed me to get more kills because fast ships were less likely to be able to pull range and escape, I could keep them nearby long enough for me neuts to become effective.

Friends are also a huge benefit to PvP … be they other players or your own alts. A PvP gang is going to be able to kill a wider range of targets than any one member in isolation. Because TEST started destroying my anchored bubbles I woke-up a sabre alt and he’s been helping me out and, more so nowadays, getting more of the kills than I am.

So to me target selection, intel, performance augmenters, and friends are all legitimate things to improve your PvP. Why on earth would you be thinking that somebody who does all these things represents some sort of ‘cancer’ in eve? To me that guy is simply demonstrating half-intelligent gameplay and using the game dynamics and current meta to his advantage.

IMHO the cancer lies in the people who seriously suggest that sensible game-play is somehow a bad thing. Sure, there are folk who play disciplined solo-PvP with no boosts or scouts or buddies … and that is absolutely fine, it’s their choice. The folk who do that also seem to be realists, wishing for more pure-solo PvP but acknowledging that everyone plays eve differently and that it’s up to them to adapt and adjust to the various gameplays.

“His gameplay is pretty cancerous to EvE as it's 100% risk averse.” Nah, codswallop. He's undocked and he's engaging in small-gang PvP. It sounds like he's skilled, careful and tends to outsmart and outmanoeuvre most (all?) the people here. He also gets outsmarted from time to time. To my mind that's skill, not cancer ... the cancer lies in lazy incompetent players believing they somehow have a right to dominate over skilful players who put in the effort.

Buying a link alt is not skillful. Nor is running from any fight where victory is less than 99% assured. It's a game, not real life combat. It's ****** when everyone plays in a highly risk averse fashion, if I have to run you through the logic on that I'm going to be disappointed in your critical thinking skills.

Good PvPers kill stuff they had a disadvantage against. From what everyone has said these guys refuse to fight unless they outgun and outnumber the opposition. Killing a battleship in a couple of T1 frigs is skill. Soloing a battlecruiser in a T1 frig is skill. Only taking fights you can't possibly lose with help from booster alts hiding in a POS bubble is literally the exact opposite of skill.