Intergalactic Summit

They had the gall to jump it into one of the asteroid belts in our home/staging system, O1Y-ED, which I believe is a -0.27 Security Status system.

The Dreadnought was in K4YZ-Y, a -0.30 Security Status system. We've since encountered and destroyed a few more of them, and are starting to analyze their tactics and the composition of the ships.

Meh, I got bored.

Besides, the interested parties have all probably figured it out by now.

Best way to kill them seems to be to swarm them with lots of cheap catalysts. Or if you want to hot drop a titan on it, go for it hotshot.

You don't know the Federation.

If Serpentis parked that titan in the heart of Gallente space everybody would be wanting to dock in it to score some of their fine boosters.

I think the Solteuer class Titan was among the first generation of, "Pocket" Titans built to provide a degree of jump-bridge support to fleets with lower costs, firepower, and defenses than a proper Iapetan class of Titans currently only owned and operated by CONCORD signatories. They were all mostly replaced by the current generation of Erebus, Leviathan, Ragnarok, and Avatar.

Lets face it, if Caldari or any of the empire factions possessed the power to blow anything up then none of this would be happening, yet here they are running around doing as they please with little resistance, who really holds the power in New Eden? There's a storm coming, Ms. Kim. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.

The Caldari or any of the empire factions possess the power to fund CONCORD which incentivizes the destruction of Angel and Serpentis assets by freelance capsuleers through its bounty system. They don't have to directly blow pirates up because capsuleers will do it for them.

So yes, if the Angel and Serpentis storm hits I'll quite gladly live large on their bounties and loot while leaving so little of them left in space -- much like I suspect a majority of capsuleers.

Ms. Vizage,

I'm not sure what backwater moon you may have hailed from, but let's take a moment to fly a dreadnought through the holes in what you've just stated.

The Angel Cartel has been around for the better part of a century. In all that time, despite all the recent advances in technology and warfare, the "empires" and CONCORD have been not able to prevent us from conducting business. This includes the Jovians, who made little to no real effort in preventing us from setting up shop in their former home.

Groups like Serpentis and the Guristas, for all their faults have amassed a very respectable degree of personnel, ISK and sovereignty. So too, the Bloodraiders. And for all that is wrong with Bloody Omir, he's stood up to the Amarr Empire and thrived. Take a look at the star charts of the systems our four organizations hold and consider how many resources we have at our disposal. Consider the costs of running a small Capsuleer-run corporation and how the loss of multiple dreadnoughts could adversely effect or even destroy one and then consider how much more available material Serpentis has if it can rapidly make and lose dreadnoughts with no appreciable effect to their operations. And these four "criminal" organizations have completed the bulk of their work long before Capsuleers came along.

Then consider the current wars among Capsuleer corporations. Look at how much the Goons, Pandemic Legion/Horde, TEST and many others have been able to accomplish in just a decade. Can you imagine what the Goons will like when they have the same amount of years under their belt as the Cartel?

Finally, the Sansha. How many tens if not hundreds of millions of people have been lost to them? This isn't a problem in media's lack of reporting, their success all boils down to the continued failure one organization. CONCORD. And history has shown that neither CONCORD, nor the 'empires" are equipped to handle the current , let alone emergent threats. The only thing they've been able to do, is keep the core worlds of each empire somewhat secure. But space is oh so much bigger. And we have all the time in the world to create the perfect storm.

With all due respect pilot Mokk, what you seem to distinctly lack here is a perspective of scale. To put things in perspective let me ask you a simple question.

Name an exact instance when any of the empires has explicitly mobilized against one of these "pirate" factions with the express intention of destroying them.

There is one instance that comes to mind and that is of Sansha's Nation. Do you remember how well that went for them? Nearly completely obliteration. An attack so devastating it took the Nation quite a few years before it could launch its "retribution war" which amounts to little more than a salvage operation for most seasoned incursion operators.

You may claim whatever you like about their lofty ideas and grandiose schemes Pilot Mokk, or point to the underdeveloped and over exploited regions neighboring high security space as proof of their strength. But the evidence is rather clear. Should these "pirate" nations do something that the four empires find inscrutable they would likely suffer the same fate as Nation. The reason these factions continue to operate is much more likely the cause of them making themselves deliberately to time or resource consuming for any of them empires to bother.

And that's not even considering what multi-level corruption could be inherent in any of the four empires that incentivses not wiping them out.

But make no mistake. I feel like I've said this a few thousand times now but, if you think these factions actually pose a credible military threat to any of the big four. You simply do not understand how big these empires actually are.

I'm going to have to break this response up as sometimes it seems you're doing the arguing for me. So let's work through this in the order you presented.

Perhaps I'm wrong but I think you are referring to the events occurring in the bleak lands. When the Blood Raiders attack Imperial assets in......The bleak lands. Now I'm not sure what is more troubling here, you attempting to ridicule my historical accuracy or the fact that you conflate attacking Imperial assets in The Bleak Lands with winning some kind of war. At best it's a successful guerilla campaign, at worst an opportunistic strike against a microscopic portion or the Imperial Navy's might.

On the second topic, this one I find myself deeply confused about. Do you actually think that an attack on Sarum Prime that the Empress to be at the time could be so little bothered by that she'd rather attend a bloodsport is an argument for the might of Sansha's nation? Really?

Thirdly, the drifters as I've already said do represent a clear and present threat. Their technology is incredibly advanced, but we aren't talking about them, and they haven't alluded to their motives quite yet have they?

Finally, I think a discussion about what you consider "winning" is in order, as nearly being wiped out only to be able to escape, go into hiding for years and return only to be killed (at least presumably as most people I've spoken to think) is most certainly not the definition I would take when referring to intergalactic conquest.