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PC Help - looking to buy new

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Faize Arkanon
Zero F0cks Given
#1 - 2016-05-07 11:15:59 UTC
Hi all

I am looking to buy a new PC to do office work, store my photos and music and to also play EVE. My partner is also wanting a say on what we buy and she has taken a shine to an all in one PC.

I have been looking on various websites and have seen a few that look okay to me, but I don't really know what I'm talking about. I want to be able to play EVE efficiently and without lag. I am not fussed about playing on the maximum settings, but don't want to be on the lowest.

Any help would be appreciate. What should I look out for?

Thanks

F
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-05-07 11:25:00 UTC
Anything above an abacus will run EVE just fine, basically

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-05-07 11:28:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
I play on an HP ENVY 23 touchsmart all-in-one.

It's 4 years old now and the full specs are here:

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=c03539322

Game wise, I can run multiple clients on the system with no problem.

The biggest issue is the graphics card, which is the same type you would find in a laptop/notebook rather than a desktop.

It's good, but I find it has a bit of lag if I run on maximum graphics settings and the fan works overtime (running multiple clients. It's fine with one client). So I play on 'performance' settings, which are just fine for me and I just switch to 'quality' if I want to take in game screenshots.

The graphics card will be the most important component if you want to run max graphics, so whether you are using an i5, i7 or AMD chip, they will all be good enough. Additionally, RAM won't be a problem and you'll have more than enough even with a basic system (but most will come with 8 or 16 GB, which is plenty).

The motherboard in an all-in-one for Eve also won't be an issue.

So just get the best video card you can and you should be fine.

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Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-05-07 11:31:14 UTC
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#5 - 2016-05-07 11:39:08 UTC
Faize Arkanon wrote:
Hi all

I am looking to buy a new PC to do office work, store my photos and music and to also play EVE. My partner is also wanting a say on what we buy and she has taken a shine to an all in one PC.

I have been looking on various websites and have seen a few that look okay to me, but I don't really know what I'm talking about. I want to be able to play EVE efficiently and without lag. I am not fussed about playing on the maximum settings, but don't want to be on the lowest.

Any help would be appreciate. What should I look out for?

Thanks

F


I wouldn't touch an AIO unit, you'll end up with either an APU or a laptop grade GPU, the issue being you have next to no upgrade path, a standard desktop will serve you much better in the long run assuming you plan on upgrading like most gamers :P
panyo shizzle
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-05-11 14:01:52 UTC
Hi all,

I am also having the same confusion when it comes to choosing a new laptop. I currently play EVE on a 2012 iMac and it runs great on it. I now require a new laptop for work and at a loss of which one I should purchase. I like the new Macbook but don't want to spend all that cash for it not to play EVE with ease. I am aware you don't get a lot for your money V windows machines.

Anyone play EVE on a MacbookQuestion

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2016-05-11 14:46:40 UTC
panyo shizzle wrote:
Hi all,

I am also having the same confusion when it comes to choosing a new laptop. I currently play EVE on a 2012 iMac and it runs great on it. I now require a new laptop for work and at a loss of which one I should purchase. I like the new Macbook but don't want to spend all that cash for it not to play EVE with ease. I am aware you don't get a lot for your money V windows machines.

Anyone play EVE on a MacbookQuestion


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Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-05-11 15:13:59 UTC
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Trevize Demerzel
#9 - 2016-05-11 16:12:51 UTC
panyo shizzle wrote:
Hi all,

I am also having the same confusion when it comes to choosing a new laptop. I currently play EVE on a 2012 iMac and it runs great on it. I now require a new laptop for work and at a loss of which one I should purchase. I like the new Macbook but don't want to spend all that cash for it not to play EVE with ease. I am aware you don't get a lot for your money V windows machines.

Anyone play EVE on a MacbookQuestion



I play on Eve on a 2011 Macbook Pro with the better graphics option (AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024 MB). The new Macbook Pros with the AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB option will easily play Eve. Assuming you go for the 15in Macbook Pro. I can't imagine Eve on a 13...



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Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2016-05-11 16:30:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
I play on an HP ENVY 23 touchsmart all-in-one.

It's 4 years old now and the full specs are here:

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=c03539322

Game wise, I can run multiple clients on the system with no problem.

The biggest issue is the graphics card, which is the same type you would find in a laptop/notebook rather than a desktop.

It's good, but I find it has a bit of lag if I run on maximum graphics settings and the fan works overtime (running multiple clients. It's fine with one client). So I play on 'performance' settings, which are just fine for me and I just switch to 'quality' if I want to take in game screenshots.

The graphics card will be the most important component if you want to run max graphics, so whether you are using an i5, i7 or AMD chip, they will all be good enough. Additionally, RAM won't be a problem and you'll have more than enough even with a basic system (but most will come with 8 or 16 GB, which is plenty).

The motherboard in an all-in-one for Eve also won't be an issue.

So just get the best video card you can and you should be fine.

TL;DR An all-in-one will work fine, if you want one to run Eve a little better than "decent," then the term you need to search with is "all in one computer dedicated graphics card"

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Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#11 - 2016-05-11 21:47:33 UTC
I've got an i5 3470 with 8gb RAM and an nvidia gtx960 ftw graphics card. I run max graphics and the only time I really get lag is instances where there a ton of entities on grid (for example, the undock of the PvP station on singularity which has like a Billion citadel's on grid)

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#12 - 2016-05-11 23:24:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Shallanna Yassavi
Take a serious look at building your own desktop. Most prebuilt systems come packaged with worthless software you'll never use.
Much of it is a security problem. Besides all this complicated code sitting around you never have a use for, the symptom list for "Do I have spyware/adware/viruses?" describes how a lot of consumer-oriented computers come off the shelf: always slow, random message boxes popping up to inform you of things you don't much care about, and the like. And a loooong boot time.

Must-have parts list:
Motherboard + matching CPU. Make sure the CPU is on the motherboard's list of supported CPUs-a matching socket is *not* enough. Don't mess with the FX-9370 or 9590, they run VERY hot.
RAM. If you have an AMD APU, faster RAM will give you noticeably faster graphics performance.
Video card if no integrated graphics. Most new CPUs have some kind of GPU on the die with them. The main exceptions are AMD Athlon, AMD FX series, Intel i7 hexacores and octacores. Edit: And at least some Pentiums.
Hard drive and/or solid state drive.
OS license. The "OEM for system builders" version is bound to your motherboard on install, so consider if you will want to use license for a new build later. Or, if you don't mind going off the deep end, some flavor of Linux. Start with something stable-maybe an Ubuntu LTS release or Debian stable.
Case. Must be big enough to fit motherboard.
Power supply, if the case doesn't come with one. Must be enough to power everything, preferably with extra capacity in case you add parts later. Bet on ~150W for the motherboard, and add 50% more than the graphics card says it will take (my 220W card was tested to peak at 300).
Monitor. Read reviews, because you will be looking at it a lot. Consider the kind of lighting conditions it will be used in, because some look better under different lighting conditions (direct sunlight vs. that lonely night light).

Nice:
Video card.
Optical drive.

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Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#13 - 2016-05-12 03:36:55 UTC
Oh, and on the notion of building your own computer, Newegg has really good parts, and are cheaper than most other places (And free shipping on alot of stuff!)

Other helpful websites:
PC Partpicker To make sure everything is compatible
CPU Boss To compare CPU's
Wattage calculator To calculate how big your power supply needs to be

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violator2k5
Crescent Nova
#14 - 2016-05-12 03:38:30 UTC
i use https://www.overclockers.co.uk for my shopping needs, they also offer pre-built machines which can be done to your needs. Theres also a custom build where it lets you pick which components you want for the machine and they'll put it together for you.


One thing you need to take into consideration and thats the operating system due to some of them having limitations on the size of the hard drive you want
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#15 - 2016-05-12 04:28:40 UTC
panyo shizzle wrote:
Anyone play EVE on a MacbookQuestion


i played just fine on a 2009 17" macbook for yonks, until said macbook crapped itself. could run 2 clients ok'ish, three slowed everything to a crawl, even at minimum graphics settings.

so a mate in the trade built me a Gruntmaster 6700 custom liquid cooled gaming rig, cost me less than I could have bought all the parts for.

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u3pog
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#16 - 2016-05-12 09:35:44 UTC
You didn't mention your playstile. It matters for your choise of PC. For example if you play on a single account, I'd insist on the graphic card because you'll want to play on maximum details possible to see EVE as pretty as it is.

I am also looking to buy a new PC, but in my case it's for multitasking. What I've noticed when I am using multiple accounts is that the most crucial component is the CPU. My PC is ancient...Intel Dual Core E8400 3GHz, 8GB of RAM, but DDR2 and nVidia 9800 GTX+. So when I play on 5 accounts at the same time, I have like 40-50% free memory, I've lowered the details so my graphic card is good, but my CPU is always at the max.

So, for multitasking and since my budget won't allow high end Intel machine, I'd go for AMD and something like this: Amd Fx-8370, 16 GB DDR3 and nVidia 960 GTX or better. Also SSD all the way. I am gonna try to sqeeze max performance out of this setup. Don't forget the power supply too. I currently have 600W PSU, I might go upwards with the new PC. For upgrades and stuff you know. Cool

Any suggestions on how to improve it? How are you dealing with 10+ accounts and what's being used the most in your case? CPU, Memory or graphic card?
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#17 - 2016-05-12 10:13:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
you want an i7 or similar if your gonna run multiple clients

Edit: the amd looks good for price/perfomance

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Doomheim
#18 - 2016-05-12 10:36:38 UTC
Skull Canyon is the answer to every new PC related question. It's so tiny and pretty and... hideously overpriced, but still.

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