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T3 Cruiser Null sec to cloak or not to cloak
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Super Veliz
Seventeenth Battalion
Honorable Third Party
#1 - 2016-04-22 19:34:38 UTC
Im trying to create a doctrine for my corp, few t3 fits here and there, but for null sec roaming, gate camping, small gang pvp 3-4 pilots, is it worth it to put a covert reconfiguration on t3s?
Sheeth Athonille
TerraTroopers
Get Off My Lawn
#2 - 2016-04-22 21:12:27 UTC
I'd personally say no, you'd have to nerf your fit way too much for it to be worthwhile.
Lucy Callagan
Goryn Clade
#3 - 2016-04-22 23:31:11 UTC
NO ! unless you're a covert hunter

[Tengu]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Imperial Navy Small Capacitor Booster
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor

Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Precision Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Precision Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Precision Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Precision Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Precision Heavy Missile

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


[Legion]
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste

Corelum B-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Medium Capacitor Booster II,Navy Cap Booster 800

Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II,Scorch M

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization

[Proteus]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste

Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
Gistum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
Medium Capacitor Booster II,Navy Cap Booster 400

250mm Railgun II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor
Proteus Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors

Acolyte II x1
Valkyrie II x1
Valkyrie II x4


[Loki]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Nanofiber Structure

Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Corelum A-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II

Loki Defensive - Amplification Node
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-05-06 04:55:55 UTC
Super Veliz wrote:
Im trying to create a doctrine for my corp, few t3 fits here and there, but for null sec roaming, gate camping, small gang pvp 3-4 pilots, is it worth it to put a covert reconfiguration on t3s?


Can I ask ... why do you think 1 ship will fit all these different scenarios - and if you don't know how to T3, why are you writing the doctrines?

Now for your answer: I would give 'em multiple choices as you want multiple roles filled. A scout/booster/combat scanner can be cloaky; a Loki seems to do rather well in this role. For actual DPS you're definitely looking at something non-cloaky; although I can't help but wonder if you can't get the job done with fewer expenses.
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-05-06 05:07:42 UTC
Super Veliz wrote:
Im trying to create a doctrine for my corp, few t3 fits here and there, but for null sec roaming, gate camping, small gang pvp 3-4 pilots, is it worth it to put a covert reconfiguration on t3s?


3 dudes in dps and one solo logi exequror or scythe is plenty effective anyways

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

atomic killer
The DARK TROJANS
#6 - 2016-05-06 19:22:31 UTC
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Im trying to create a doctrine for my corp, few t3 fits here and there, but for null sec roaming, gate camping, small gang pvp 3-4 pilots, is it worth it to put a covert reconfiguration on t3s?


3 dudes in dps and one solo logi exequror or scythe is plenty effective anyways


Exequror dies instantly, then the opposition has 3 nice Tengu kills.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2016-05-06 20:07:23 UTC
atomic killer wrote:
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Im trying to create a doctrine for my corp, few t3 fits here and there, but for null sec roaming, gate camping, small gang pvp 3-4 pilots, is it worth it to put a covert reconfiguration on t3s?


3 dudes in dps and one solo logi exequror or scythe is plenty effective anyways


Exequror dies instantly, then the opposition has 3 nice Tengu kills.

because the tegu pilots shot his dumbass for bringing Armour logi Roll

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-05-06 21:22:09 UTC
atomic killer wrote:
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Super Veliz wrote:
Im trying to create a doctrine for my corp, few t3 fits here and there, but for null sec roaming, gate camping, small gang pvp 3-4 pilots, is it worth it to put a covert reconfiguration on t3s?


3 dudes in dps and one solo logi exequror or scythe is plenty effective anyways


Exequror dies instantly, then the opposition has 3 nice Tengu kills.


plot twist, all the tengus were actually armour tanked ECMGUs, no one dies everyone goes home with blue balls.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Mysa
EVIL PLANKTON
#9 - 2016-05-09 19:46:54 UTC
theres only one legion fitt for small fleets

[Legion, Neut n Droens]
Corelum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Reactive Armor Hardener
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Core A-Type 100MN Afterburner
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Small Energy Nosferatu
Dark Blood Small Energy Nosferatu

Medium Anti-Thermal Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Energy Parasitic Complex
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

'Augmented' Hammerhead x5
Infiltrator II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Nanite Repair Paste x150
Navy Cap Booster 800 x12

SoloFoLife! -KEKE the Merlin wonder
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#10 - 2016-05-10 00:14:34 UTC
Your scout should be cloaky. The rest could be fit any way you want, as long as they all know how to fly the fit AND you all know how to pick your fights.
If no body knows how to fly the doctrine.... you would be better off with kitchen sink fits and ships.