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Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#41 - 2016-04-20 18:37:08 UTC
HS mercing : LS/NS meatgrinding = PC : Console
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#42 - 2016-04-20 19:32:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Highsec mercing can't be equated to any single form of hunting because it requires a lot of adaptability.

Sometimes it's hog hunting with a spear, but also at night, but you brought your head mounted FLIR binoculars so it's not so bad, but then it turns out one of the hogs has a shotgun, sometimes you have to kill forty really angry seagulls using only a .45 before they can peck your eyes out other times it's a grizzly bear and you're holding it down bare handed but its okay because you've just got to not die until your associates can show up with their highly specialized anti-bear rifles.

Truly the sport of kings.
Ninlarra
Ninlarra Brand Ships and Modules
#43 - 2016-04-22 01:50:14 UTC
Im just going to copy and paste this from another thread here.

Ninlarra wrote:
I laugh a little whenever any of you scrubs call yourselves pirates. Pirates capture goods and may ransom people if they are important. What you fake ass "pirates" are now is psychotic killers. Scrambling and killing everything in sight isn't piracy, sitting at a gate shitting on reapers and wreathes isnt piracy, its the purge movie. I don't care either way personally, as my large rigs on my Nighoggur are older than most of these fake ass pirates, they never catch me (**** yo gatecamp). I'm just calling it what it is.

Before you ask yes I pvp https://zkillboard.com/kill/50923188/ but its not my primary reason for logging in.
Mimosa Jones
Catskull Cartel
Grimskulls
#44 - 2016-04-22 08:50:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mimosa Jones
Speaking as someone who has acted as the negotiator* for a ransom that gave us 5b** (after a theft that gave us another 15b) a small horde of extremely angry raccoon- I mean... pilots... yeah- I can say that honoring one's word is fairly important. If you're going to kill 'em, kill 'em all. If you're gonna ransom, keep your word. It's so hard to properly ransom nowadays, and I can't imagine pirates actually making a living off of it.

Every time some dumbass pirate thinks 'hurr blurf blurf i take iskies then shoot you cuz iz good pirate', you make others look bad, and what's worse is that you make the rest of us who keep a ransom policy seem untrustworthy. You're not a pirate, you're just a thug with an ego, and you make diplomacy that much more difficulty.

At the very least keep some word, or else it's poor sportsmanship. Even if the policy is 'No Stalling or We Shoot' and 'Money Now or We Shoot'.

TL;DR: You're pirates, not Goons. Act like it.

*On my main character.
**Would've been 7b ransom***, but we killed the Chimera with the Thanatos we stole, because we couldn't fly it and hold on to it.
*** We ransomed a carrier, the pos, a way back into the hole, and a few extras. Glorious.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#45 - 2016-04-23 08:57:58 UTC
Separatists are the lowsec pirate tryhards.

btw, wolf's sends his regards.

Just Add Water
Bur Khurelem
Sky Net Industries
Artificial Intellagence
#46 - 2016-04-25 18:01:19 UTC
Love it OP. I support your pirate-y actions. And honestly this guy learned a pretty cheap lesson: Never trust a pirate.

I will say... there are those who DO honor their word. And that's what makes Eve great--it feels like a real universe. Some people genuinely want to help you and others are lurking, hoping you fall for their mischief.

Its dumb to be salty over this kind of RP because its what makes the game awesome IMO.
Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#47 - 2016-04-27 18:20:02 UTC
Not really impressed by this nub pirate. All the shenanigans for just 325 mil? And you let other capitals go? Is this your biggest eve achievement in last 10 years?

Support Can flipping.
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#48 - 2016-05-06 15:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaska Iskalar
Freedom Vyvorant wrote:
E- honor? sure I have one and still hold my self to it and I am sure there are plenty of active or former pirates that do so too.

Ditto. CCP pretty much killed piracy as a profession as far as I'm concerned. Jump drives, among other things. I was one though. And I mean actual pirate, not -10 PvPer that gets all their money carebearing in high. I got at least ~85% of my income from people farming and ransoms. You kill the ship you get scraps. Ransoming is much more profitable. If you don't honor the ransom people stop paying. It's bad business. There was a time when this kind of behavior was looked down upon.

Bur Khurelem wrote:
Love it OP. I support your pirate-y actions.

They're not piratey actions. They're the actions of an opportunistic PvPer, not a professional.
eddie valvetino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2016-05-09 12:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: eddie valvetino
tiberiusric wrote:
coming from piracy background most pirates have honor , when they get paid . You sir do not and its nothing to do with being a pirate its was purely to do with you being a complete douche. there is nothing cool or to respect here


^^this^^

to be honest, being in Snuff many of you will think this statement a little odd... (snuff are not really a pirate corp, just a pvp corp that opperates out of low sec) but real pirates do have "honour" if you pay us then we should honour that contract.

To be honest, I see very few true pirate corps in New Eden.. can't remember the last time I heard of someone being ransomed or extorted.
Xeno Szenn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2016-05-09 12:55:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Xeno Szenn
Good to know to never work with sepertist there word can;t be trusted thanks for sharing. And it's not a matter of pirate or not pirate you just ammited that temp bluing you or working with you is a liability
Gee Shunziji
Lionheart Confederation
#51 - 2016-05-12 21:45:32 UTC
Every time i read about how harsh the world is, therefore justifying the ingame behavior of an *******. I think of the fact that, in the real world previously mentioned, being a douche might very well end up having to deal with a combination of fists and feet coming your way. Creating a situation where, if you were not really up to the state of badassness you pretended to be, you could suffer a huge amount of pain for a long long time or even death. Not the kind of death that costs money and some setback in progression. The kind of death that leads to you, not being able to pretend to be anything anymore.

So please, for the sake of our intelligence, keep the harshness of the real world to the real world and enjoy the fact that you can die several times in an hour and still pretend to be a badass mother ******. I can assure you that none of those i know that can beat every one they meet without a sweat actually play any kind of video game at all... they train hard and eat healthy.

The OP and his defenders are pathetic. Period.

'' Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, Fuck you .. ''

-Period
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2016-05-12 22:15:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
Kaska Iskalar wrote:
Freedom Vyvorant wrote:
E- honor? sure I have one and still hold my self to it and I am sure there are plenty of active or former pirates that do so too.

Ditto. CCP pretty much killed piracy as a profession as far as I'm concerned. Jump drives, among other things. I was one though. And I mean actual pirate, not -10 PvPer that gets all their money carebearing in high. I got at least ~85% of my income from people farming and ransoms. You kill the ship you get scraps. Ransoming is much more profitable. If you don't honor the ransom people stop paying. It's bad business. There was a time when this kind of behavior was looked down upon.

Bur Khurelem wrote:
Love it OP. I support your pirate-y actions.

They're not piratey actions. They're the actions of an opportunistic PvPer, not a professional.




What this guy says. That's real piracy. Pirate


Sadly without a carebearing alt in high or null this type of career is not an option in Eve.




Just curious, for the mercs being here, is it enough isk or do you also have to carebare your alts to buy a coffee and a donut in eve?

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#53 - 2016-05-12 22:32:19 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Separatists don't honour their word , noted.

IMO you honour your word, but then I'm a merc, our entire livelihood relies on our reputation so that's just my biased opinion,
Personally I would have made some tiny stipulation in the wording of the agreement to catch him out ,
that way you could retain your "honour" if he wasn't on the ball (which he clearly wasn't).


News at 11: People from low/null don't honor their word.

Us Elite Highsec PVPers honor agreements because there's an ingrained concept of contractual obligation, usually based on a desire to maintain a reputation and secure repeat business.

random tards shooting people in low for shiggles as part of a big-ole alliance where they're a generic face in a sea of hundreds or thousands don't give a crap about that.

Yet another reason why Highsec PVPers are the master race.

no need for going all "school teacher " on my ass vimsy (the glasses do look good though), underlined the important bit

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#54 - 2016-05-13 00:27:51 UTC
I've been waiting for a pair of spectacles since the day incarna hit TQ. Honestly these ones a bit hipstery for my taste, but I'll take what I can get.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#55 - 2016-05-13 02:29:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
im waiting for a pair of these bad boys

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Nitshe Razvedka
#56 - 2016-05-13 04:53:17 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
im waiting for a pair of these bad boys



No no no no no no no no no no! You need the Ben Kingsley moustache and goatee a la Sexy Beast. Big smile

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Calamity Nine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2016-05-13 18:42:08 UTC
Bur Khurelem wrote:
Never trust a pirate.


but you should trust a pirate to be a pirate

Bur Khurelem wrote:

Its dumb to be salty over this kind of RP because its what makes the game awesome IMO.


If they didn't want to engage in role play and simply kill on sight, they should have done that.

But they chose to role play, and then backed out of their role play obligations, and ruined the experience for both their victim and other pirates who choose to role play.

the sad part is they can't be punished for this. Other racketeering pirates can't chase them down and make them stop what they're doing since there's no real concept of death in this game. Okay they'll blow their ship up and then what? Scrubs are gonna scrub.

If you're a pirate, act like a pirate

if you're a KOS sociopath, then be that, and enjoy the game in your chosen style, but don't say that you're something when you're not.
Mark Hamill
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2016-05-14 13:05:56 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Here i was thinking that pirates were all about being dashing likable swashbuckling rogues that bamboozled their way into wealth and riches, while following a personal code of conduct. You on the other hand, are just a jerk. It's one thing to take advantage of stupidity and incompetente of others, another entirely different is to take advantage of the good will and diplomatic effort of a person under duress.

If your idea of being a pirate is to act like one of those gun totting terrorists that sail the sea in Somalia, then congratulations, you are living the dream. But you are no Jack Sparrow.


WELL SAID!
eddie valvetino
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2016-05-14 15:04:10 UTC
Irie Alixyar wrote:
You all mother ******* talking about the good old days when pirates.. That's all bullsh*t cause I have been playing for 10 years and I have yet to meet anyone that wouldn't have done the same thing.. Ransoms are never honored, need I remind you this is a game where the largest alliance robs people daily with recruitment scams, & stealing their sh*t when they are supposedly moving in? There is no honor in Eve, there has never been.. What I did is nothing compared to all other fu**tards running accounts.

He's lucky we only killed one.

He offered me 325 million to jump 7 capitals into my system.. He stated that once he jumped them in, it was his problem. He didn't even wonder why there were only 20 people in coms and I told him that we had about 50-60 "protecting" him, he also never mentioned a rorqual.. If any other poor nub would come and ask me for the same thing & literally offered me a quarter of what his ships are worth to help him; I / WE would do it again.

So as I said before; Yarr b*tches.


been playing 10 year myself

and hello, you just met a "pirate" that would have honoured that agreement
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