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Totally agree with OP. It's the different playstyles that make EvE great and I too enjoy a nomadic adventure every few weeks. I adventure solo with 1 account, so the Orca examples using multiple alts do not work for me. Something with a ship hanger (25k-50k) and larger storage (50k-75k) would be nice. I don't see why a "big brother" to the mobile depot wouldn't work and should be pretty easy for CCP to create using the mobile depot model. Something like this is needed to fill the huge gap between the mobile depot and the med Citadel.

The Orca as a replacement for a POS - are the gas processors going to be mid or low slot modules ?

The Mobile Depot is just too small. The idea of finding a wormhole or quiet null sec system and setting up shop for 3-5 days, cleaning out the sites and then moving on is in serious jeopardy. The small POS was perfect for this. There was no need for any defenses, just a quick anchor, add some fuel and off you go. I use 3 ships for my travels, none very expensive, but they still need a place to be stored. Leaving them floating empty in space while you scan the system or run a Relic site seems a bit absurd. When it's time to move a quick pack up into your hauler and head off to find the next adventure.

Hopefully CCP does not forget about this style of play and actually realize how dangerous and exciting being a nomad can be in EvE.

What part of the Orca let you run reactions with that gas?

As stated, this is just the first line. The point of the the citadel was to replace the ship hanger and the corp hanger.

Nomads will have other tools. If your a mining you wll use a drill platform which will have hangers, and its own set of weapons and tools. Be easier to move, but not as defensible. The idea is to drop it someplace, mine the **** out of whatever, grab it and move to the next place.

if your a builder, then you will use the industrial arrays, set up shop, build crap, sell it, move on.

want research? used a research up

all these will be smaller and easier to move then a citadel. (in theory) More tools are coming.

This thread is basically someone looking at the first car and going 'but but my wagon and oxen can carry all my stuff! what the hell!' and ignore that a truck is on its way. Patience. When they start doing the announcement for other structures provide feed back.

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I have to agree with the overall sentiment, Citadels are great for permanent long-term bases of operation but the long anchoring time and anchoring distance restrictions make them very poor for nomadic players, for short-term operations, and for setting up strategic safespots. These are all roles that Starbases currently perform, and if new structures don't fill those gaps then EVE will lose yet more of its emergent gameplay and will be worse off for it. Personally, I'd love a stripped down Astrahus that takes an hour to set up and take down but has some other drawback like poor fittings or a base fuel cost.

If we don't get that, our only other hope lands with upcoming structures. The industrial outposts coming in Fall/Autumn will be basically citadels with manufacturing and research facilities are will come in the same sizes as citadels. I expect them to be seen as permanent long-term structures just like citadels and they'll likely have the same long anchor times and restrictions. The Drilling platforms coming in the winter update are another matter, as they're still very early in development so we don't exactly know how they'll turn out.

Drilling Platforms:
When I spoke with Andie at Fanfest, the idea that was being bounced around for Drilling Platforms was to fill in the spectrum from fully active (e.g. mining with a mining barge) to fully passive (e.g. mining moon goo with a starbase) resource gathering. There are no firm game designs for this yet, but each platform could require a different level of player interaction. With that in mind and knowing that Drilling Platforms are early in development, it's possible that they could fulfill the nomadic player's roles nicely. To do that they would require:

• Must be anchorable close to objects, so we can place them right inside an asteroid belt or other place. They might even require a certain type of object to anchor onto, such as an asteroid.
• Must be at least one platform type that can be anchored and unanchored within an hour so we can potentially sneak them into places. The down side might be a fuel cost.
• Must have the tethering mechanic for nearby idle ships so they can be used as safespots.

We can be pretty sure that drilling platforms will be partially automated (e.g. asteroid miner needing emptied every 20 mins), but I'd also love to see them give area-effect bonuses to mining etc to encourage players to use them while they're actively playing. The platforms could also have very short weekly vulnerability windows but become vulnerable while in use and for a short time after use.

That way we'll be able to build up resource-gathering infrastructure throughout a system and know it's safe to leave it there, but if we're caught using it then the structure could be destroyed. With a short anchor timer, we'd be able to sneak one into a system relatively easily unless caught in the act and either pack it up (good for nomadic lifestyle!) or leave it out there to use again later (good for world-shaping), so they could very well cover the nomadic lifestyle use cases.

Thoughts? Should we get a stripped down fast-deploying Nomadic Astrahus or is this something that Drilling Platforms can solve if it gets the right mix of features?